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Outlands College of Heralds

August 10, 2010
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia
castle@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 6th day of August,  A.S. XLV (2010 CE), does Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia send greetings on behalf of Sheik Omar Mohammud Mirzazadeh, White Stag Principal Herald.

It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies;  It saves having to re-type everything again.  Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind.  If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for August 2010. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments sent  to Rampart Herald by September 14th, 2010, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for September 15th, 2010.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

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1. Alexander of Lancaster - Device resubmission (Laurel). Per chevron argent and gules, two crosses and a lion passant guardant counterchanged.

(Al-Barran).

Submitter's name was registered January 2009, via Outlands. http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/01/09-01lar.html  

Submitter’s previous device  Argent semy of roses sable barbed vert seeded Or, was returned on the same LoAR for the following reasons: This device conflicts with the device of Angus de Botha, Argent, three roses in fess sable. There is only a single CD for the change from three to semy; we do not usually grant a CD for arrangement against semy charges. This device is also a conflict with the device of Johanna von Nürnberg, Bendy argent semy of roses sable and gules, There is a single CD for the change to the field, but the semy of sable roses are the primary charge group in each device.

2.Amice de Clara - Name change from Amanda Dusoulier, which was registered in October of 2001 (via Outlands) http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2001/10/01-10lar.html  

(Arguelle) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about language/culture -13c English. Changes accepted.

[Amice] – Withycombe, p.19.  Header “Amice” shows the name popular in 12th -15^th c.

[de Clara] – Reaney and Wilson, p.98. Header “Clare” shows Richard de Clara, dated to 1086.

3.Anzelm Kowalski - New Name and Device. Vert, a chevron between two greyhounds passant respectant and a ring of three keys Or.

(Blaiddwyn) Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about language/.culture (left undefined). Changes accepted. 

[Anzelm] - Ursula Georges in the letter from Academy of St.Gabriel (December 2009), writes as follows:" We found [Anzelmus] in a Latin document from Poland dated to 1497; [Anzelm] is the expected Polish form of this name." Taszycki, Witold (ed.), Slownik Staropolskich Nazw Osobowych(Dictionary of Old Polish Personal Names), vols.I-VII. Wroclaw: Zaklad Narodowy Imenia Ossolin"skich, Polska Akademia Nauk 1965-1987, s.n.[Anzelm]

[Kowalski] - the same letter states:"We found [Kowalski] in Poland in 1450". Ibid.s.n. http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3394.txt

4.Celestina Santi – Device resubmission (Kingdom). Per pall Or, gules and purpure two greyhounds sejant Or, in chief an eight point star azure.(Caerthe).

 Submitter’s name was registered in February of 2010 (via Outlands). http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/02/10-02lar.html 

Submitter’s previous device Per pall azure, purpure, and gules, a greyhound sejant proper was returned on October 2009 LoR http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2009-09-lop/0910-lor.html  for the following reasons: Cannot use per pall of three colors; one of the field-divisions should be a metal to ensure good contrast on at least 1/3rd of the field (RfS VIII.2.b.v). Additionally, there is no definition for a greyhound proper, so this should be marked as a greyhound argent marked brown. Finally, this device is in conflict with Asne Whitewolf (April of 2000 via Artemisia): (Fieldless) A wolf sejant argent with only one CD for the change in field (RfS X.4.a.iii).

5.Colla Cunocroi – New Name and Device. Argent, a hazel leaf vert charged with a hazelnut Or, in base a goutte d’ eau.

(Unser Hafen) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about language/culture - Gaelic, and meaning - hazel. Changes accepted.

[Colla] - Traditional Irish names were formed from two parts; a personal name and a byname that differentiated or qualified the bearer.(Bath, 10-13) The by-name was often a family or clan name, but it was occasionally a qualifier chosen from an event in the bearer’s life or a personal capability; for example, the hero Setena took on the name Cuculiann (hound of Culann) after an important battle with a great hound. (Graves, p. 44)  The judge Feidlimid O’Curry (anglicized) was called Feidlimid Rechtmar, (Law-Giver) when he became the ruler of Ireland in 1051(MacManus, 39)

The name Colla is a feminization of coll, a word drawn from the Irish Beth-Luis Nion, or Ogham, and meaning ‘hazel”. It was a common practice in Ireland to give a child a name that was well-favored or imparted blessing to an affinity the child had shown. (MacCulloch, 123)Being named for the Hazel tree links the bearer with the gaining of knowledge and wisdom. This connotation comes in part from the Tale of the Hazel Pool;   in Celtic tradition, the Salmon of Knowledge is said to eat the 9 nuts of poetic wisdom dropped into its sacred pool from the hazel tree growing beside it, every three years. Each nut eaten by the salmon becomes a spot on its skin. These nuts held the wisdom of the world. Hazel is linked with the gain of knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, inspiration, and poetic insight. Individuals in search of knowledge, most commonly Irish bards progressing in their training, would seek out hazel trees and eat from them to gain wisdom. (MacCulloch, 377-413). The name was taken by some families for similar purposes. In fact, Celtic trees were highly symbolic, as Tacitus wrote during the reign of the Roman Emperor Nero in A.D. 58, : the grove is the center of their whole religion. It is regarded as the cradle of the race and the dwelling place of the supreme god to whom all things are subject and obedient. Some tribes go so far as to take on trees as their patron spirits and adopt their names. We see tribes calling themselves the Men of Oak; the Son of Yew and the Men of Rowans. This tradition continues for centuries; Bath noted; ‘Colla was a Gaelic personal name and Colla Uais, a semi-legendary Irish king of the fourth century, is claimed as the great ancestor of the MacDonalds. (Bath, p.1190) 

[Cunocroi´] - The byname Cunocroi is formed of two words; cuno (der. spelling kuno) a word that, as many Old Irish words, is contextual. Many Irish words had three or four meanings, decided by their situation(Hip.bks, sec.II, pg 13) The word, which fell into disuse after the 1400’s(Hip.bks,sec.II, pg. 17) gave rise to four  modern Irish words; conn(reason, intelligence), cu (hound, wolf), cum(to create, form, devise) and cù-dubh (otter). (Hip.bks,sec.I,pg. 10 + Ó Conchúir) The second word, croi, means heart.( Ó Conchúir+ Hip.bks,sec.I, pg. 19) This byname essentially rolls four meanings into one; ‘of the creating heart’ ‘of the wolf/otter’s heart’ and ‘of wise heart’ It aptly sums up what I do and who I am.  

Sources: Bath, David; Ulster Ancestry; a sampling of Irish Family Names. British Library Press, London, England 1942. Ford, Patrick K., trans.; The Mabinogi and Other Medieval Welsh Tales. University of California Press: Berkeley, CA, USA, 1977. Hippocrene Books; Irish-English English-Irish Dictionary and Phrasebook, Hippocrene books New York, NY 1983,1985,1992,1998. Graves, A.P.; The Irish Fairy Book, Senate Books, New York, 1983.  MacCulloch, J. A. The Religion of the Ancient Celts. T. and T. Clark : Edinburgh, Scotland 1911. Publius Cornelius Tacitus; The Life of Cnaeus Julius Agricola, c.98 CE, A. J. Church and W. J. Brodribb, trans., London: Macmillan, 1877, pp. 87- 110. Ó Conchúir, Eoin; The Irish Gaelic Translator,www.irishgaelictranslator.com, linkwww.englishirishdictionary.com, EÓC (Ireland) 2008

6. Domin d’Alsace – Device resubmission (Laurel). Quaterly gules and vert, in sinister chief an oak tree,  in dexter base a stump Or.

(Caerthe)

 Submitter’s name was registered in  January 2006, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2006/01/06-01lar.html

 Submitter’s previous device Quarterly vert and gules, a tree issuant from a stump couped Or, was returned on July 2009

 LoAR http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/07/09-07lar.html for the following reasons: This device conflicts with that of Brianne Hyla, Per chevron Or and vert, in base a maple tree couped Or. There is a single CD for the changes to the field, but Brianne's tree is forced to base therefore there is not a CD for position. Prior precedent has stated "Brianne's tree is a 'maple' due only to artistic detailing, it is otherwise identical to a generic tree" (Gregor MacDonald and Petronel Harlakenden, 10/2008), thus there is no difference for the type of tree. The tree issuing from the stump is blazonable, but does not count for difference against another tree, just as a tree couped is not a CD from a tree eradicated.The submitted device is also in conflict with Della Rovere, Dukes of Urbino (important non-SCA arms), Azure, an oak tree eradicated its four branches knotted in saltire Or. There is a CD for changes to the field, but by precedent (q.v. Gregor MacDonald and Petronel Harlakenden, 10/2008), the nowing of the branches is not worth a CD.

(Al Barran)  Submitter’s name was registered  in December 1998, via Outlands  http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1998/12/lar.html

8. Emma Lyliewhyt - Device resubmission, (Kingdom).Quaterly azure and gules, two lily flowers argent slipped and leaved vert, stems joined in base.

(Ravenhyrst) 

 Submitter’s name was registered on April 2010 LoAR http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2010/04/10-04lar.html

Submitter’s previous device  Gules, a lily flower argent, slipped and leaved vert, a base wavy argent, was returned on January 2010 LoR http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2009-12-lop/1001-lor.html for the following reasons: Conflict with Sancha de Flores (10/03, East): Gules, a columbine slipped and leaved argent. No difference for lily vs. columbine (both are trumpet-shaped flowers). No difference for slipped and leaved argent vs. vert - detail. One CD for addition of the base.

9.Fiórleif eldr orn – New Name and Device.  Argent, a phoenix rising from flames gules, within an orle of pheons sable.

(Caerthe) Gender: Female, Submitter cares most about the meaning of the name "fire eagle". Changes accepted.

[Fiórleif] - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html

Viking Names found in Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman). Feminine names found five or fewer times

[eldr] [orn] - http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman)

10. Jayne Barber -  Device resubmission (Kingdom). Vert, a woman and a female child argent, a chief argent, semi de lys sable.

(Al Barran)
Submitter's name was registered on September 2004 LoAR, via Outlands, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/09/04-09lar.html .
Submitter's previous device Azure, a man and a woman dancing aversant argent and a chief ermine, was returned on May 2004 LoR   http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2004-04-lop/0405-lor.html, for the following reasons: This device is being returned, both for the very odd posture (an odd conjoining at the arms/shoulders) and per the following precedent:[a mermaid tergiant] ... the mermaid is in a non-heraldic posture. We know of no examples of humanoids or other mammals with their backs facing the viewer. [False Isle, Shire of, 10/99, R-An Tir] [Ed.: Returned for lack of petition] Even if the tergiant is merely a weirdness, the dancing position itself is a second step from period style.

11. Katerinka Korsakova - New Name.

(Blaiddwyn) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about meaning of the name: Katerinka of the fox, in Russian. Changes accepted.

[Katerinka] - http://www.goldschp.net/archive/femnames.html, Feminine Personal Names in Medieval Russia, by Paul Wickenden of Thanet.

Katerinka Stepanova zhena Proniakina(1538-9)

[Korsakova] -   Fox, Steppe- Korsakov(1545). Korsakova would have been a female form. http://www.goldschp.net/archive/zoonames.html#mammals

12. Lucas Cade -  Name change from Lucas de Caid, which was registered on October 2001 LoAR, via Outlands, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/10/01-10lar.html

(Al Barran) Gender: Male. No changes accepted.

[Lucas] - E.Withycombe, p.201. Header: Luke(m): Latin Lucas, Lucas Cur 1196-1215 (Castle note, no documentation on the first name was provided by submitter)

[Cade] - Jack Cade, 1450. Chambers Biographical Dictionary. William Cade,The English Historical Review, vol 28, no 112, pp.730-732

(Castle note - also found in A Dictionary of English Surnames, P.Reaney and R.Wilson, p.79. Header: Cadd, Cade: Wigan filius Cade, c1155 DC:Willian, Eustace Cade c1140)

13. Otto das  Schwarze Herz -  New Name and Device. Gyronny of eight,  gules and argent, four hearts in saltire, sable, points to center.

(Al Barran) Gender:Male, Submitter cares most about meaning (left undefined) and language/culture (left undefined). No major changes accepted.

[Otto] – H.Bahlow, p.359.  Header: Otte, ..., are popular forms of the old Ger. emperor name Otto, ..., made famous by Otto the Great (10th c.)

[Schwarze] – H.Bahlow, p.462. Header: Schwar(d)t,...,LGer forms of Schwar(t)z, Schwarze, ..., 1288.

[Herz] – H. Bahlow, p.219. Header: Herz.  

14. Peryn Wolfe - Device resubmission (Kingdom). Per saltire vert and argent, four compass roses in cross, bases to center, counterchanged.

(Caerthe)

 Submitter’s name was registered on October 2004 LoAR, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/10/04-10lar.html

Submitter’s previous device Quarterly vert and argent, four compass-roses in cross and a bordure all counterchanged,  was returned on June 2004 LoR http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2004-05-lop/0406-lor.html  for the following reasons: This device is being returned for multiple issues. First, this at least borders on excessive counterchanging. Second, the counterchanging renders the complex charges of compass roses near completely unidentifiable. Third, and least importantly, the bordure is a little on the skinny side. The combination of these issues lead to a return. When resubmitting, please be aware that placing one identical charge in each quadrant of a quarterly field is not considered marshalling and is not a reason for return. 

15. Röttger Ambos - New Name and Device. Or, a heart inverted sable, pierced by a dagger bendwise gules.

(Al Barran) Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about the sound of the name, "Rudger Ambos". Changes accepted. 

[Röttger] – Bahlow, p.424. Header: Röttger

[Ambos] – Bahlow, p.12. Header: Ambos.   

16. Sabyn Edwards -  Device resubmission (Laurel). Per pale vert and purpure a  dragonfly volant argent, in base two mullets counterchanged, all within a bordure argent.

(Rio de las Animas). Submitter’s name was registered November 2009 LoAR, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2009/11/09-11lar.html. Submitter’s previous device  Per pale vert and purpure, a dragonfly argent, was returned on  the same LoAR for the following reasons: conflict with the device of Mairghread Maire Draigdaimhalachd, Per saltire azure and vert, a dragonfly tergiant displayed argent, orbed Or. There is a single CD for the changes to the field.

17. Seamus O’Mourne – New Device. Per chevron argent and azure, two sea dragons combatant and a mullet of seven points voided and interlaced, counterchanged.

(Dragonsspine) Submitter’s name was submitted on June 2010 LoP, via Outlands, http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-06-lop/1006-lop.html 

18. Shazadi al-Fustati -  New Name.

(Al Barran) Gender: Female. No changes accepted.

[Shazadi] - is one of the common anglicized variants for Shahzadi (Shehzadi), an ancient Persian, Hindi, Urdu and Arabic word normally used as a title for a royal born princess. More so then men Jewish women tend to have names that closely resembled those of their Muslim neighbors. While some women as noted above did have classical Hebrew names, the vast majority of names listed in the data set from the Genizia shows Jewish women with Arabic style names. These Arabic style names follow several patterns but all seem to be similar with the practices of Arabic naming among the Muslim majority in Cairo. 
The first form appears to be the name of a favorable trait like Hasab (noble), Husn (beauty), Jamila (beautiful), or Surura (happy). Other names of similar form appear in the list in the appendix. These names would have been in use by the Muslim women around the Jewish community and would have migrated across to the Jewish women.  http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/yehoshua/jews_in_cairo/index.html

Many names are derived from everyday Arabic words, whose meanings were probably relatively transparent to the namers. Many refer to a desirable trait or to the preciousness of a child. Meanings are included where possible. http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/geniza.html

[al-Fustati] -locative feminine byname in the Middle Eastern tradition, meaning "from Fustat". Fustat was a capital of Egypt during much of the early Crusades, until it was supplanted by nearby Cairo.

19.Tiberius Acilius Brutus -  Device resubmission (Laurel). Per bend sinister argent and vert, a quiver and a ram’s head caboshed, counterchanged.

(Dragonsspine).

Submitter’s name was registered on March 2006 LoAR, via Outlands, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2006/03/06-03lar.html

Submitter's previous device Gules, in fess a natural leopard couchant guardant between two Ionic columns Or, was returned on the same LoAR, for the following reasons: conflict with Randall of Willowrock, Gules, in fess a mullet inverted between two Doric columns argent. There is a CD for changing the tincture of the primary charges, but no difference for changing the type only of one of three charges in fess.

20. William de Camville -  New Name.

(Al Barran) Gender:Male. Submitter cares most about language/culture of the name (12c English/Norman)

(Castle note - no documentation was provided for this name, so I tried my best, please help, as my resources are quite limited)

[William] - E.Withycombe, p.293. Header: William. Also can be found on http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/eng13/eng13m.html, mentions 126 occurences.

[de Camville] - Richard de Camville (died 1191) was an English crusader knight, and one of Richard the Lionheart's senior commanders during the Third Crusade. In June 1190, at Chinon, he was, with 3 others, put in charge of King Richard's fleet sailing for the Holy Land. In1191 he was appointed governor of Cyprus, jointly with Robert of Thornham. He died later in the same year at the Siege of Acre. He was the son of another Richard de Camville (died 1176), an Anglo-Norman landowner, and Millicent, a kinswoman of Adeliza of Louvain, the second wife of King Henry I.

Unfortunately, found on  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_de_Camville

In A Dictionary of English Surnames by P. Reaney and R.Wilson, p.82. Header:Camwell: Richard de Camuilla, 1148; Thomas Camuille 1327

Thus ends the August 2010 Letter of Presentation.

Yours in Service

Tatiana Moskovskaia
Castle Herald

 

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