Outlands College of Heralds

From the office of the Rampart Herald
Lady Alia Marie de Blois
rampart@outlandsheralds.org

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May 2004 Letter of Presentation
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Commentary was provided by: Lady Aryanhwy merch Catmael, Boke Herawde; cnut; Lord Gawain, Green Anchor Herald; Lady Sorcha MacLeod, White Stag Principal Herald; and Lady Mór inghean Chathail. Thank you all.

Present at the Rampart Decision Meeting: Alia Marie de Blois, Rampart Herald; Anne Aliz de Basle, Fretty Herald; Charles Robert Blackstone; Juan Balthazar Tegero; AEthelwulf of Golias; Odile Balestra; Mechior auf Missen.

(Unless otherwise noted, all submittors will accept all changes, have no authenticity requests, and wish a name with the "common sense" gender, based on the submitted name.)

The following submissions were sent on to Laurel and the College of Arms for final decisions:

Anna Fae. New Name and Device. Azure, on a pall beneath an increscent Or, in base a pine tree azure and a bordure argent.
This exact same source was used in the registration (with no comment on the byname from Laurel) of Mara Fae on the December 2002 LOAR. While prior registration is no guarantee of future registrability, the recentness of this registration does indicate that it is likely to be acceptable.
Caerthe, Barony of. New Badge. Or, a flanged mace bendwise vert and a bordure embattled sable.
Caerthe, Barony of. New Badge. (Fieldless) An aspen tree proper issuant from an egg fesswise fracted palewise Or.
Daráine Seóig. New Name.
Commentary was received suggesting that Sheoye is an Anglicized Irish byname. Combining an Anclicized Irish byname with a Gaelic given name is a linguistic "weirdness". Combining a very early period name with a rather late period name is considered a temporal "weirdness". Laurel will register a name with one "weirdness", but not one with two. So, I am passing this name as submitted. However, Laurel will see the original forms submitted and see your request.
Fergus MacLennan. Change of Registered Device. Gules on a chevron sable fimbriated between three gryphons segreant five fleurs-de-lys Or.
Reblazoned from "gryphons segreant" to "gryphons", as segreant is the default posture for gryphons. I am passing this device, but I would suggest to the submittor that, when using the device, the chevron should be drawn noticibly steeper.
Kathalyn Nimet. Change of Registered Name and Change of Registered Device. Per pale argent and sable, all crescenty counterchanged, a bordure gules.
Reblazoned from "both semy of crescents" to "all crescenty".
Outlands, Kingdom of the. New Order Name. Order of the Silver Lance.
Peryn Wolfe. New Name and New Device. Quarterly vert and argent, four compass-roses in cross and a bordure all counterchanged.
There was some commentary about the allusion between this name and that of Perrin in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series, but the consensus at the meeting was that it may not be overly allusive. I decided to let the College of Arms and Laurel decide.
Rhiannon verch Edenevet. Resubmitted Name (kingdom)
I found Ednyfed in Tangwystyl's Simple Guide as a header spelling. Commentary indicated that those header forms are modern and that the period form is Edenevet. History books are well known for using the modern forms of names, unfortunately. Since the modern form is not registrable, I have changed it to the period form. Also, "ferch" is the modern form of "daughter" - "verch" is the period form.
Sabine of Loch Rennach. New Name and New Device. Per pale sable and purpure, a castle and in chief a thistle slipped and leaved argent.
Thank you for making us aware of this wonderful site of period maps!
Stephen North. New Name.
All parts of this name are found in the "Brass Enscription Index" by Julian Goodwyn (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/). Stephen is dated to 1446 in the list of mens' names (men.html) and North is dated to 1529 in the list of last names (lastnameIP.html).
He will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture, and is interested in authenticity for "13th-14th cent. English" time period and language/culture.
Tahir al-Razi. New Name and New Device. Vert, a crescent between five mullets of eight points in orle argent.
Please note that, when drawing this in the future, the mullets should be drawn more clearly, with the points going in the same directions.
Violetta Bellafiori. New Name.
Originally submitted in October of 2003 as Violetta Bellafiori, this name was in November 2003 because Violetta was only found in conjunction with "La Traviata", a well post-period opera, and I was unwilling to change it to Viola without consulting the submittor. Since then, the following documentation has been found for Violetta as a literary name in England. This name appears in a work by Emanuel Forde with the title "Parismus, the Renovmed Prince of Bohemia. His most famous, delectable, and pleasant Historie. Conteining His Noble Battailes fought against the Persians. His loue to Laurana, the Kings Daughter of Thessaly. And his straunge Aduentures in the Desolate Iland. With the miseries and miserable imprisonment, Laurana endured in the Iland of Rockes. And a description of the Chiualrie of the Phrygian Knight, Pollipus: and his constant loue to Uioletta" which was published at London in 1598. This work was one of the inspirations for Shakespeare's Twelfth Night so appears in a lot of references. While it does give the name as Uioletta, it also contains several instances of a v/u swap (Chiualrie, loue, Renovmed, Aduentures), so Violetta seems a quite likely spelling. (My deep thanks to Mistress Alisoun, who discovered this reference.) Therefore, at this time, I am reconsidering this submission and sending it to Laurel, as no other negative commentary was received about this name at the time of the original return.

The following submissions were returned for further work:

Daráine Seóig. New Device. Argent, a catamount rampant sable maintaining a garden rose purpure slipped and leaved vert and on a chief enarched purpure three compass stars Or.
This device is being returned for conflict with Gregoria Anne du Lac, Argent, a cat sejant erect, tail nowed sable and on a chief purpure five annulets interlaced argent. This is a conflict as only 1 CD total can be obtained for the cumulative changes to the charges on the chief. There is no difference given for the difference between a chief (straight line) and a chief enarched, nor for the difference between sejant erect and rampant.
Additionally, when redrawing, please make the following changes. The mullets should be drawn significantly larger and with more distinct points. As they are, they are pretty much unidentifiable. Also, prior precedent says that rosebuds are not registrable. Please be sure that the garden rose is not drawn as a rosebud. The chief could also stand to be a bit wider.
Lyneya del Filde. Resubmitted Device (kingdom). Vert, on a cross nowy argent, a torteaux.
This is being returned for conflict with Lettice Peyton of Ashdown, Vert, on a cross nowy quadrate argent a rabbit sejant proper maintaining a quill pen sable. This is a conflict, as only 1 CD total can be obtained for the cumulative changes to the charge on the cross. Prior precedent indicates that there is no CD between a cross nowy and a cross nowy quadrate, which is a shame, since this is such a nice device.
Peryn Wolfe. New Device. Quarterly vert and argent, four compass-roses in cross and a bordure all counterchanged.
This device is being returned for multiple issues. First, this at least borders on excessive counterchanging. Second, the counterchanging renders the complex charges of compass roses near completely unidentifiable. Third, and least importantly, the bordure is a little on the skinny side. The combination of these issues lead to a return. When resubmitting, please be aware that placing one identical charge in each quadrant of a quarterly field is not considered marshalling and is not a reason for return.
Stephen North. New Device. Sable, within a triangle voided Or, three annulets interlaced one and two argent.
This device is being returned for conflict with Damon Hawke, Sable a triangle Or charged with another sable. Damon's device can be equivalently blazoned as Sable, a triangle voided Or. In this case, there is only one CD for the addition of the annulets. Unfortunately, you cannot blazon your way out of a conflict.

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
May 2004 Letter of Presentation
June 2004 Letter of Response
June 2004 Letter of Intent
October 2004 LoAR Results
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