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Outlands College of Heralds

March 9, 2008
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Baronessa Francesca di Pavia, OP, OL
castle@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 9th day of March A.S. xxxxii (2008 CE), does Maestra Francesca di Pavia send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for March 2008. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are undoubtedly mine.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by April 12, 2008, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for April 13, 2008.

I am urgently seeking a successor to this office. As my warrant expires May 1, I would like to find someone POSTHASTE. Please apply to Lady White Stag and copy me.

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1. Ambrosius von Beck.  Name and device resubmission. Quarterly paly bendy vert and argent and pily bendy sinister azure and argent, between three suns in splendor Or a gryphon segreant sable.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, specified as "German speaking". No major changes accepted.
The previous submission, Ambrosius Grief von Beck, was returned on the May 2007 Letter of Response: "Commenters indicate that _Deutsches Nameslexikon_ by Bahlow does not have an entry for [Grief]. Bahlow does have an entry for [Greif] which is the proper spelling of [griffin] in German. The only dated reference is 1616 for an [Andreas Gryphius] also known as [A. Greif]. Bahlow's entry for [Beck] indicates a meaning of [Baker] and so a [von Beck] is an incorrect form. Client advised to either find a period dated citation for [Greif] or drop it from the name. Possible correct constructions include [Ambrosius Beck] or [Ambrosius Greif Beck]. As the client has not allowed major changes to the name, this must be returned for rework. Name returned for lack of documentation." The accompanying device, identical to the current submission, was returned on the same letter: "Commenters indicate that the complexity count on this device is 8 which is borderline for return under Rfs.VII.1.a - Tincture and Charge Limit. The design is also complex enough to reduce the visual impact of any single portion of the design. The use of the complex fields also causes this to be very close to violating Rfs.VII.4.d - Modern Style. One commenter felt that the secondary quarters may be more properly rendered as [pily bendwise sinister]. The particular stylized form of the gryphon also makes it difficult to identify on this complex field, causing it to be in violation of Rfs.VII.2 - Armorial Contrast. Either simplify the field, or use a more standard depiction of a gryphon sergeant. Device returned for lack of name and violation of Rfs.VII.1.a, Rfs.VII.4.d, Rfs.VII.2, and general redraw."
Ambrosius:  "Medieval German Names from Silesia" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/bahlow_v.htm) dates this name to 1429.
von Beck: Journal of the Warburg and Courtland Institutes, vol 40 (1977) p. 56, lists a Sybert von Beck, a 14C Carmelite theologian.

2. Bardolf Gunwaldtsson. Name change from Jeffery Paul Gundwaldtsson and new device. Erminois, a raven within a bordure sable.
(al_Barran) Gender: not specified. The submitter cares most about the sound of the name. Changes accepted. If the name is accepted, the submitter asks that his former name be released.
The previous name was registered in November 1989. The submitter wants to keep his registered surname, but I note that the registered name contains a "d" that is missing from the current submission.
Bardolf: Beardsley, Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames, p. 78; Withycombe, p, 82. "Ancestors of Reed Molthan Williams Wurts" (http://www.wurts.net/rmwwanc/g0000116.html) shows Bardolf, born 1045.  A genealogy of the Dukes of Brittany (http://www.geneajourney.com/brttny.html) includes Bardolf, born ca. 1052. Additional citations supporting this as an 11th-century given name are included.

3. Carloman Macht von Drachenfels. Device resubmission. No blazon proposed.
(Rio de las Animas)
The name was sent to Laurel in the July 2007. The device, Vert, in pale a crescent pendant and an increscent Or, was returned on the same letter for conflict: "Styrbjorn Halte - August of 1994: [Vert, in pale a crescent inverted and a Thor's hammer Or.] 1 CD for type change of half of the primary group. Blazon changed from [Vert, two crescents pendant in chief increscent in foot Or] to [Vert, in pale a crescent pendant and an increscent Or]." The current submission adds a bordure.

4. Catherine McLaren. New name and device. Per fess azure and argent, a bow Or and a domestic cat couchant azure.
(St Golias; submitted at Estrella) No changes accepted. No other boxes checked.
Catherine: Reaney & Wilson, p 452 under surname Townson dates Catherine to 1591.
McLaren: Black, Surnames of Scotland, p 534 dates McLaren to 1592.

5. Catherine McLaren. New badge. Azure, a pawprint bendwise sinister argent within a bow bendwise Or, all between two pawprints bendwise in bend sinister argent.
(St Golias; submitted at Estrella)
Name submitted under #4 above.

6. Catherine Wentworth of Cambridge. New name and device. Gules, on a fess between three triquetras, each interlaced with an annulet, and a phoenix Or, a rose gules.
(Windkeep; submitted at Estrella) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about the spelling and the (unspecified) language/culture of the name. No major changes accepted. Creation of a holding name not accepted.
Catherine: Withycombe (3rd ed) p 186-187, header Katharine, dated throughout period
Wentworth: Reaney & Wilson, (3rd ed), p 482, header Wentworth, dated to 1422
Cambridge: University town in Britain, use as a surname dates to 1182 - Reaney & Wilson, (3rd ed), p 81, header Cambridge

7. Cerdic Cenfrithsson. New name and device. Gules, a bend sinister argent between two forks bendwise sinister, a bordure all argent.
(St Golias; submitted at Estrella) The submitter requests a name authentic for early (6th-8th Century) Saxon. Changes accepted.
Cerdic: Searle, Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum, p 134, dated to 616
Cenfrith: Searle, Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum, p 128, dated to 680. The submitter wishes an authentic patronymic for this name.

8. Cerdic Cenfrithsson. New badge Gules, a fork bend sinister argent.
(St Golias; submitted at Estrella)
Name submitted under #7 above.

9. Charles Robert Blackstone. New badge. Fieldless, a lion passant guardant erminois wearing a baronial coronet Or.
(al-Barran)
The name was registered in August 2003. The submitter was created a Baron of the Court of the Outlands on November 11, 2006.

10. Emma Yate. New device. Azure, a wheel Or within a horse-headed torque argent, in chief two bars Or.
(Gleann Medonach; submitted at Estrella)
The name was registered in August 2005.

11. Grima Sjóna. New alternate name for Muirgheal inghean Sitheach and new badge. Quarterly purpure and sable, an eight-spoked wheel argent.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Female. The submitter cares most about the meaning and language/culture of the name, defined as Norse. Changes accepted.
The primary name was registered in December 2000, and was actually registered as Muirgheal inghean Shitheach (perhaps this should be corrected) via Artemisia.
Grima: "Viking Names found in the Landnámabók" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html) From the article: "The surviving versions of Landnámabók date from the second half of the 13th century or a little later, though it has been suggested that it was composed in an early form by Ari Þorgilsson (1068-1148). The initial settlement of Iceland largely took place between 870 and 930, but Landnámabók definitely mentions descendants significantly later than the actual settlement period, at least into the 11th century." The name Grima occurs two or fewer times in the Landnámabók.
Sjóna: "Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html) cites this as a feminine byname meaning "seeress".

12. Gytha Lokheued. New name and device. Per pale sable and vert, on a pale argent three lozenges azure.
(Caer Galen; submitted at Estrella 2007 - yes, 2007 - and finally sent on with the 2008 submissions) Gender: Female. Changes accepted.
Gytha: Searle, Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum, p 274
Lokheued: Jan Jönsjö, Studies on Middle English Nicknames I: Compounds, Lund Studies in English 55, University of Lund , p 123- cites several individuals with this surname dated to the 14th century. Meaning: "one with curly hair" (OE loce "lock of hair" + heafod "head")

13. Nathaniel Hayes. New name and device. Per chevron Or and argent, a grenade sable enflamed gules.
(Caerthe/Ravenhyrst; submitted at Estrella) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the sound and (undefined) language/culture of the name. No major changes accepted.
Nathaniel: Academy of St. Gabriel, "Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names" by Chris Laning (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/) lists Nathaniel as one of the top 50 men's names of the 1560s and 1570s.
Hayes: Academy of St. Gabriel, "Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names" by Chris Laning (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/)

14. Nicolina of Cornwall. New device. Argent, on a pile inverted embattled vert, a horse's head couped argent.
(Gleann Medonach; submitted at Estrella)
The name was registered in August 2005.

15. Ótama inn glađi. New name and device. Purpure in pale a flame proper and a dragonfly, a chief rayonny Or.
(Caerthe/Ravenhyrst; submitted at Estrella) Gender: Female. The submitter cares most about the meaning of the name (see elements below). Changes accepted.
Ótama: The Viking Answer Lady (http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONWomensNames.shtml): feminine given name, probably originally a byname. From the OW.Norse adjective útamr "untamed". Appears in the runic nominative form [utaRa].
inn glađi: "Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html) - Old Norse meaning "glad, happy".

16. Robert Moffat. Device resubmission. Per saltire azure and gules, a saltire argent, palewise two mullets argent.
(Fontaine dans Sable; submitted at Estrella)
The name was submitted to Laurel in May 2007. The previous submission was returned on the same letter: "Commenters indicate that the saltire is far too narrow, and needs to be redrawn about 3 times as wide. The device appears to be clear of conflict at this time. Device returned for redraw."

17. Salomea Toruńska. New name and device. Argent, a chevron engrailed gules between three bats sable within a bordure engrailed gules.
(al-Barran) Gender: Female. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as 14C Polish. No major changes accepted.
Salomea: Salomea of Berg (ca 1093-1144) was a Polish princess (Wikipedia)
Toruńska: The UNESCO World Heritage website (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/835) describes the medieval town of Toruń, Poland, which dates to the 13th Century. "Antykwa Toruńska" ("Antiqua of Toruń") (http://www.nowacki.strefa.pl/torunska-e.html) indicates that Toruńska is a Polish locative meaning "of Toruń". "Jewish Records Indexing-Poland" (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psa_mstowsurn.htm) lists the surname Toruńska as found in the civil records of the town of Mstów, Poland, in the 19th Century.

18. Sorkhan Aradai. Name change from Iira Kazimir Zarubezhanin.
(St Golias; submitted at Estrella 2007) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as Mongol. No major changes accepted. If this name is registered, the submitter wishes to retain his currently registered name as an alternate name.
The current name was registered in August 2006.
A letter from Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy is included as documentation. She cites the following:
Sorkhan: found as a name element in "Mongolian Naming Practices" by Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy (KWHS Proceedings, 1995, Barony of Caerthe, Kingdom of the Outlands). The specific historical individual cited is Sorkhan Shira, a general under Chinghis Khan.
Aradai: Academy of St. Gabriel,  "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html) - per Marta: "The names list in the paper [Marta's paper referenced above] doesn't list Arada (this could also be transliterated as Ariga, or even Aratai - Baras-aghur's citation shows how one term can be transliterated in a number of ways). However, as mentioned in Baras-aghur Naran's article, Arida could be considered as a physical descriptive byname (if one happened to have unusual teeth, perhaps buck teeth or or protruding canines), or as an "occupational" byname Aratai (if one were considered to have the stealth and cunning aspects of some predatory animal). An occupational byname included in Marta's paper includes Arat, "herdsman". "

19. Tancorix of Cait. New name and device. Sable, a domestic cat statant argent.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Unspecified. Submitter cares most about the  language/culture of the name, specified as Pictish. Changes accepted.
Tancorix: Academy of St. Gabriel, "A Consideration of Pictish Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict3_4.html#section3) lists the name Tancorix as a primarily feminine name that could also be masculine. The Roman Britain website (http://www.roman-britain.org/places/maglona_carvetiorum.htm), discussing a settlement at Old Carlisle in Cumbria, says: "For a long time the only epigraphic evidence for the existence of a civil settlement or vicus at Old Carlisle was the tombstone of a native woman named Tancorix (vide supra)."
of Cait: University College Cork (Ireland), "Onomasticon Goedelicum: locorum et tribuum Hiberniae et Scotiae (An index, with identifications, to the Gaelic names of places and tribes)" (http://www.ucc.ie:8080/cocoon/doi/locus/C): "Cait: one of the 7 divisions of Alba under the Cruithne, Bb. 113 a; ¶  Cait, Caithness in Scotl., Sk. i. 186; ¶  v. Inis Cat, Críoch Cat." Academy of St. Gabriel, "A Consideration of Pictish Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict2.html#section2) identified Cait as one of the seven sons of the (possibly legendary) Pictish king Cruithne, for whom regions of Scotland were named (Cait gave his name to Caithness).

20. Tatiana Grigor'evna. Name resubmission.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Female. No other boxes checked. Changes accepted.
The previous submission, Tatiana Grigorevna Bez Kaidal, was returned on the May 2007 Letter of Response: "A communication from the submitting herald indicates that the client would like to change the [Bez Kaidal] with [Sevsk]. We have no documentation for [Sevsk] and so I am returning the submission to allow the client to rework the submission to better fit their desires."
Tatiana: "A Dictionary of Period Russian Names" by Paul Wickenden of Thanet (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/t-u.html) cites this name as a variant of Tat'iana.
Grigor'evna: "A Dictionary of Period Russian Names" by Paul Wickenden of Thanet (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/g.html) cites Grigor'evna as a feminine patronymic form of the masculine given name Grigorii and its numerous variants.

21. Thak Al Chinua. New name and device. Sable, on a fess argent between a scimitar fesswise reversed and a scimitar fesswise proper, a wolf courant gules.
(Caerthe/Ravenhyrst; submitted at Estrella) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the sound of the name. Changes accepted. Client will accept reversal (Al Chinua Thak).
Thak: "Annapurna Circuit and Sanctuary: A Himalayan Guidebook for the Independent Trekker in the Annapurna region, Nepal" (http://www.yetizone.com/the_thakalis.htm) discusses the Thakali people of Nepal. Thak means "distant country" in Tibetan. No documentation for the use of this word as a name element is provided.
Al: Academy of St. Gabriel,  "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html) lists Al, meaning the color crimson, as a name element.
Chinua: Academy of St. Gabriel,  "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html) lists Chinua ("wolf") as a common name element.

22. Valentinus Trapezuntianus. New name and device. Per pale Or and purpure, a lotus blossom in profile sable.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the meaning of the name, "Valentinus of Trapezunta" in Latin. Changes accepted.
Valentinus: "Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries" by Berret Chavez (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/PLRE_masc_names.html) lists this name.
Trapezuntianus: "Late Roman Shield Patterns: Dux Armeniae" (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson/DuxArmeniae.html) shows the town of Trapezunta. Bibliotheca Augustana (http://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/Chronologia/Lspost05/Notitia/not_dor2.html) lists the Roman prefecture of Trapezunta under the Duke of Armenia. No documentation for Latin locative formation is included.

23. William Heron. New name and device. Per chevron azure and vert, three herons' heads erased argent.
(al-Barran, submitted at Estrella 2007) No boxes checked. Changes accepted.
William: Withycombe, p. 293
Heron: Realy & Wilson, p. 229

24. Wolfhart Strobel. New name and device. Checky sable and argent, an inverted oak leaf inverted gules.
(Nahrun Kabirun) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as late 13th Century German. Changes accepted.
Wolfhart: "Medieval German Names from Silesia" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/bahlow_v.htm) dates this name to 1293.
Strobel: "Some Early Middle High German Bynames with Emphasis on Names from the Bavarian Dialect Area" by Brian M. Scott (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/Early_German_Bynames.html) dates this name, meaning "full of underbrush; unkempt, shaggy (referring to hair)" to 1240.
No line drawing of the device was included in the submission packet.

25. Wulfhramn St. James. Name and device resubmission. Sable, an eye argent irised azure, surmounted by a sword inverted Or.
(al-Barran) Gender: Male. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as Frisian. Changes accepted.
The previous submission,Wulfhramn of Golden Oak,  was returned on the August 2006 Letter of Response: "Commenters indicate that the only documentation that can be found for [of Golden Oak] is a 20th century furniture style. The Dictionary of Scottish Place Names does not have any [Golden/Gold-/Gild-/Gyld-] style references. Wulfhramn appears to be a Frisian name, and it is believed that combining this with an English byname would be considered a weirdness (one step from period practice) if it is allowed at all. Rampart would like the client to note that they must provide copies of appropriate sections of documentation with the submission paperwork, in this case printouts of appropriate portions of the websites used to document Wulfhramn. Name returned for lack of documentation of the byname." The device, identical to the current submission, was returned on the same letter for lack of a name to send it forward with.
Wulfhramn: Wulfhramn - http://members.aol.com/mcnelis/AEstel1/Shippey1.html and http://members.aol.com/mcnelis/AEstel2/Frantzen2 discuss the Life of St. Wulfhramn. The Catholic Encyclopedia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15716a.htm) describes St. Wulfram as the Bishop of Sens, who died before 704.
St. James: a copy of the submitter's driver's license is included - this is the submitter's legal surname.
The device is submitted on an old form - no doubt a copy of the previous submission.

Thus ends the March 2008 Letter of Presentation. (Whew!)

Your servant,

Francesca di Pavia
Castle Herald

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