Last modified: July 30, 2007
30 July 2007
From the Office of Rampart Herald
Furukusu Masahide (John Newton)
rampart@outlandsheralds.org
Unto Elisabeth de Rossingol, Laurel Queen of Arms, Margaret MacDuibhshithe, Pelican Queen of Arms, Jean Marie Lacroix, Wreath Queen of Arms, and the College of Arms, upon this 30th day of July 2007, A.S. XLII, does Furukusu Masahide, Rampart Herald, send greetings.
Unless otherwise noted, submitters accept all changes, desire a name with the common sense gender, and have no requests for authenticity. My deepest gratitude to those who took time to send internal commentary: Aethelwulf Muenc, Brigida von Munchen (Heralds Hill Pursuivant), Cnut, Gwain of Miskbridge (Green Anchor Herald), Ines Alfón (Saker Herald), Marie de Blois (White Stag), Meradudd Cethin (Liber Herald), Rohese de Dinan (Shadowdale Pursuivant), Ursula Georges (Loyall Pursuivant), and Ximena Etxeberria.
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It is our intent to register the following items:
No gender specified. The submitter desires a name authentic for the 9th Century Saxon/English language/culture and time period.
[Æðeluulf]: Sawyer Catalogue, S313 (http://www.anglo-saxons.net/charters): A.D. 854. Æthelwulf, king of Wessex, to St Peter and the Old Minster, Winchester; grant of 20 hides at Wanborough, Wilts. Signed by Æðeluulf, King of Wessex. The chosen spelling is from the non-Anglicized signature block of the King - "Æðeluulf Rex".
[Munec]: Reany & Wilson, pg 312, header "Monk" - Aylric Munec c. 1045.
Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about the sound of the name. No major changes accepted.
[Brice]: Withycombe, 3rd ed. header Brice: "Brice and the diminutive Bricot were fairly common in England in the 13th and 14th C." and dates Brice to 1273 (from the Hundred Rolls).
[Carlisle]: Reaney & Wilson, The Origin of English Surnames (1967), ch. 17, "The Homes of Family Names", p. 347, header "Cumberland (county)": 13th: Carlisle (Carlile, Carlill, Carlyle). "Also from Reaney & Wilson: though the submitted surname spelling is not actually dated, Odard de Carlyle 1158-64, Thomas de Karlisle 1310-11, and Adam Carlelle, Carlille 1363, 1370 - these suggest that Carlisle is a reasonable period variant."
Commenters suggested that the documentation may only support [Brice Carlisle] or [Brice de Carlisle].
The documentation also appears to imply that [Carlisle] is a location from the 13th century, being contemporary with [Brice]. In Rampart's opinion this would make the submitted construction plausible.
Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about the spelling of the name, and requests a name authentic for 10th-11th century Frankish/German from the Rhine valley. Changes accepted.
[Carloman]: thePeerage.com (http://www.thepeerage.com/p10322.htm) lists Carloman, King of Bayern (ca. 828-880); Encyclopedia Britannica, 1958 edition, vol.4 , pg 877, cites the same Carloman, king of Bavaria and Italy, and also three Frankish princes (d 754, 751-771, and d. 884) by that name.
[Macht]: the submitter's legal surname. A copy of his driver's license is included.
[Drachenfels]: Castles on the Rhine (no URL or bibliographical cite listed) infers that the Drachenfels is a hilltop along the Rhine, upon which today can be found the ruins of a castle.
Commenters indicate that [Macht] is in Brechenmacher on P.II:222 stating "Mich. M(acht) aus Zeitz" dated 1594.
One commenter wanted to pass on a few questions to Laurel regarding this name. Namely the use of the pattern [G - D - L] is unknown to the commenter in period HRE names and they cannot find any substantive information either way. Also, there is a question on if the locative should be [Von] or [Vom].
Gender: Male. No other boxes checked.
[Dermot]: "Names and Naming Practices in the Red Book of Ormond (Ireland 14th Century)" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/lateirish/ormond-given.html), with two instances of this spelling in Irish contexts.
[Kylharnon]: is found in the July 2003 LoAR (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2003/07/03-07lar.html) under Acceptances under the name "Anne Maguier of Kylharnon", which says about this locative: "No documentation was provided in the submission or the LoI for the element Kilarney. The College found evidence that the present location of Killarney in County Kerry, Ireland existed in period. The earliest Anglicized Irish example of this placename that was found was in Speed's The Counties of Britain (p. 282, map of "The Province of Mounster", map dated 1610), which lists the name of this location as Kylharnon." Not having a copy of Speed's "The Counties of Britain", this LoAR reference is the best we could find. If anyone has documentation for the spelling Kilarney or Killarney, the submitter would prefer that.
Gender: Female. The submitter cares most about the spelling of the name, and requests a name authentic for 12th-14th Century Gaelic or Saxon. She would like to keep "Geua" and "Guy"; "daughter of" may be ingen or filia. Changes accepted.
[Geua]: "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Geva) cites Geua as a variant of Geva (Genevieve), with examples from 1123 to 1212.
[Guy]: "Men's Given Names from Early 13th Century England" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/eng13/eng13m.html) cites Guy as a masculine name dated to this time period.
[ingen]: "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" by Sharon L. Krossa (http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/), under "Spelling and Pronunciation", lists [ingen] as the pre-1200 AD nominative case of "daughter".
[filia]: University of Notre Dame Latin Dictionary and Grammar Aid (http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookit.pl?latin=filia) defines "Filia" to mean "daughter".
Commenters could not find evidence that [Guy] is in anyway Gaelic in origin, causing the submitted name to violate Rfs. III.1.a - Linguistic Consistency.
Commenters also indicate that English Latin in the period occasionally used [filius] or [filia] with a father's name showing no obvious Latinization and therefore undeclined. Reaney & Wilson under surname [Guymer] shows [filius Guimer] in 1204. In the same entry, it shows a fully Latinized form as [Guiomarus], with a genitive of [Guiomari]. This implies [Geua filia Guy] as a possible twelfth to fourteenth century lightly Latinized English name.
Name changed from [Geua ingen Guy] to [Geua filia Guy].
Blazon changed from [Azure, two crescents pendant in chief increscent in foot] to [Azure, in pale a crescent pendant and an increscent argent.]
The name was registered on the January 2007 LoAR. The device, [Argent, a chief rayonny azure], was returned on the same letter: "Unfortunately, this device must be returned for redraw as the line of division is not rayonny, nor is it any other period line of division that we could identify."
This is a redraw which is clearly rayonny.
Gender: Female. The submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name (not specified). No major changes accepted.
Precedent indicates that accents should be applied consistently in names. Name changed from [Hakonsdóttir] to [Hákonsdóttir] to conform with the documentation.
[Solveig]: Geirr Bassi, The Old Norse Name, p. 15.; as well as Academy of St. Gabriel report #3182 (www.s-gabriel.org/3182) which dates the name to as early as 1000.
[Hakonsdóttir]: Academy of St. Gabriel report, number unknown (email to submitter from the Academy): "A 10th century king who had been fostered to the English king AEthelstan was identified around 960as
The suffix -dóttir "daughter" is added to the genitive case of the father's given name (Geirr Bassi p. 17) There is no specifc genetive given for names ending in "kon" in Geirr Bassi, but the St. Gabriel letter supports this name.
Device changed from [Azure, a drakar argent between three roundels and a base wavy Or] to [Azure, a drakar sail set argent between three roundels one and two and a base wavy Or.]
Thus ends my Letter of Intent.
In service and duty,
Furukusu Masahide
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June 2007 Letter of Presentation
July 2007 Letter of Response
July 2007 Letter of Intent
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