Last modified: November 12, 2010

Outlands College of Heralds

November 12, 2010
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia
castle@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 12th day of November,  A.S. XLV (2010 CE), does Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia send greetings on behalf of Sheik Omar Mohammud Mirzazadeh, White Stag Principal Herald.

It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies;  It saves having to re-type everything again.  Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind.  If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for November 2010. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by December14, 2010, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for December 15, 2010.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

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1. Aiedel Ahearn - New Name and Device.  Azure chapé argent, a phoenix rising from flames argent and in chief two compass stars azure.

(Caer Galen)  Gender: Female.  Submitter cares most about the meaning, sound, and spelling of the name, defined as "Irish/Norse descendant combination of Adela and Edith / Lord of the Horse."  No Major changes accepted.

[Aiedel] - What's in a name? Everything You Wanted to Know by Leonard R.N. Ashley p. 19 lists "Edith" as a common female name in Anglo-Saxon England, and "Adela" as a common female name in Norman England.

First Names First by Leslie Alan Dunkling, chapter 5 (no page number available) further supports both Edith and Adela, and says that before the Norman era, the custom had been to "...create new names for children by permutating name elements.  Alfred and Edith might call their son Aldith, for example."

[Ahearn] - The Surnames of Ireland by Edward MacLysaght p.2 lists "Ahearn" as a header form but provides no dated spelling.  MacLysaght is listed in Appendix F as a source to avoid.

The Dictionary of Irish Family Names by Ida Grehan, header "Ahern" states that this name is an anglicanization of the Irish "O hEachtiarna", but shows the spelling as either Ahern or Ahearne.  All dated spellings are post-period.

2.  Caer Galen, Barony of - New Order Name. Order of the Harp and Chalice.

(Caer Galen)

This order name follows the pattern "thing and thing" as defined in "Project Ordensnamen" by Meradudd Cethin  (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/), which lists as examples of this type the Orders of The Ship and Crescent, Ship and Shell, and Tower and Sword. "Medieval Secular Order Names" by Juliana de Luna (http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/) lists several categories into which period secular Order names fall. One of these is the category of "Two Charges". Some cited examples of this type of Order name are the Orders of the Fish and Falcon and the Hound and Wreath.

3. Elizabeth Anne Grene -  New Name. Device resubmission (Kingdom). Argent, in bend sinister two banners purpure and vert, each suspended from poles fesswise sable.

(Fontaine dans Sable) Gender Female. No changes accepted.

The device was returned on May 2010 LoR for absence of a name to go with, http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-04-lop/1005-lor.html

[Grene] - Reaney and Wilson, 3rd edition, header "Green" dates this spelling to 1230.

4.  Jayne Barber - Device Resubmission (Kingdom).  Vert, two maidens holding hands argent and a chief ermine.

(al-Barran)  Submitter's name was registered on September 2004 LoAR, via the Outlands, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/09/04-09lar.html .

Submitter's previous device Azure, a man and a woman dancing aversant argent and a chief ermine, was returned on the May 2004 LoR   http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2004-04-lop/0405-lor.html, for the following reasons: This device is being returned, both for the very odd posture (an odd conjoining at the arms/shoulders) and per the following precedent: [a mermaid tergiant] ... the mermaid is in a non-heraldic posture. We know of no examples of humanoids or other mammals with their backs facing the viewer. [False Isle, Shire of, 10/99, R-An Tir] [Ed.: Returned for lack of petition] Even if the tergiant is merely a weirdness, the dancing position itself is a second step from period style.

Submitter's second device submission, Vert, a woman and a female child argent, a chief argent, semi de lys sable, was voluntarily withdrawn by the submitter on the September 2010 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-08-lop/1009-lor.html).

Thus ends the November 2010 Letter of Presentation.

Yours in Service

 

Tatiana Moskovskaia
Castle Herald

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