Last modified: September 8, 2010


Outlands College of Heralds

September 8, 2010
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia
castle@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 8th day of September,  A.S. XLV (2010 CE), does Lady Tatiana Moskovskaia send greetings on behalf of Sheik Omar Mohammud Mirzazadeh, White Stag Principal Herald.

 

It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies;  It saves having to re-type everything again.  Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind.  If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

 

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for September 2010. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by October 19, 2010, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for October 20, 2010.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.


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1. Adriana of Riverhold - New device. Or, a bend sinister wavy azure between a castle argent and a fur tree couped proper.

(Rio de Las Animas) Submitter's name was registered in December 1999, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1999/12/lar.html

 

2. Al Ulagan Chinua -  Device resubmission. Sable, on a fess argent between a scimitar fesswise reversed and a scimitar fesswise proper, a wolf     courant gules.

(Caerthe) Submitter's name was registered in February 2010, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/02/10-02lar.html

 

Submitter's previous device Sable, on a fess argent between a shamshir fesswise reversed and a shamshir fesswise proper, a wolf courant gules was returned on the same LoAR for the following reasons:This device is returned because the wolf's posture is not blazonable. It is not passant, which would have three legs nearly vertical and a single foreleg stretched out in front of it. It is not courant, which would have all four legs stretched out ahead of and behind the body.The device is clear of the device of Brendan mac Artuir, Sable, on a fess between two shamshirs fesswise reversed and inverted argent, a third sable. There is a CD for the change of type and tincture of the tertiary charge and a CD for the change of orientation of half of the secondary charge group. Please inform the submitter that he might wish to use a more substantial scimitar, instead of the depicted shamshir, to make the difference very visible.

 

3. Ótama in glaša - Device resubmission. Purpure, in pale a flame proper and a dragonfly, a chief rayonny Or.

(Caerthe)

Submitter's name was registered in August 2008, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/08/08-08lar.html

Sumbitter's previous device Purpure, in pale a flame proper and a dragonfly, a chief rayonny Or was returned on October 2009 LoR http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2009-09-lop/0910-lor.html  for the following reasons The client has been over-zealous in addressing the concerns in the previous return; the chief is now too thick, causing the rest of the charges to become too small in the lower section of the field. Additionally, the client's previous flame was drawn with better tongues than this one, the charge was very difficult to identify. Society armory considers a flame proper (on a dark field) as the same as a flame Or voided gules (or, alternatively, a flame Or charged with a flame gules).

 

4. Ravenhyrst, Canton of -  Device resubmission.  Per chevron sable and argent, two ravens migrant respectant argent and a Laurel wreath proper.

(Ravenhyrst)

Branch name was registered in April 2008, via Outlands http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/04/08-04lar.html

Canton's previous device Per chevron sable and argent, two ravens migrant respectant argent and a Laurel wreath vert, was returned on June 2009 LoAR for the following reasons This device is returned for conflict with the device of Elkshire, Per chevron sable and argent, two elk's heads, erased and respectant, argent and a laurel wreath vert. Under section X.3 of the Rules for Submission, the laurel wreath is ignored for purposes of determining if the two devices are suitable for purposes of section X.2, but it is not ignored for any other purpose. Both devices are simple for purposes of X.2, with only two types of charge on the field. However, X.3 also says that "Required charges always count normally for difference themselves, this rule only ignores the complexity they add to a design." Therefore, these devices are not clear using X.2, because all of its conditions are not satisfied: the type of every charge in the primary charge group is not substantially changed between the two devices. Both of them have a laurel wreath in base.Therefore, there is a single CD of difference between the two pieces of armory, for changing the elks heads to ravens, and the devices conflict.

The canton has obtained the Letter of Permission to Conflict from the Crown of Calontir on May 22, 2010, granting the permission for the Canton's armory to conflict with the armory of the inactive Shire of Elkshire.

 

 

 

Thus ends the September 2010 Letter of Presentation.


Yours in Service

 

Tatiana Moskovskaia
Castle Herald


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