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Outlands College of Heralds

May 15, 2010
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Baron Randal Carrick
castle@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 15th day of May,  A.S. XLV (2010 CE), does Don Randal Carrick send greetings on behalf of Sheik Omar Mohammud Mirzazadeh, White Stag Principal Herald.

 

It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies;  It saves having to re-type everything again.  Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind.  If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

 

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for May 2010. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by June 15, 2010, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for June 16, 2010.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.


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1.Bruin d'Urso.New Name and Device. Per bend sinister vert and azure, a bend sinister embowed argent charged with in bend sinister a bear's pawprint and  a balance scale sable, all between two bear pawprints bendwise argent.

(Dragonsspine) Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about the meaning and the sound of the name, left undefined. Will not accept major changes.

 

[Bruin] - The English Scholar's Library of Old and Modern Works "The History of Reynard the Fox" translated and printed by William Caxton, June 1481.

 

[d'Urso] Our Italian Surnames by Joseph Fucilla, p.137. (Castle note: no photocopies of the source included by submitter. However, the similar form of the name can be found in Emidio de Felice, Dizionario dei Cognomi Italiani, p. 183 Header: Orsi)

 

 

2.  Clare de Chepyng Campedene. Device resubmission (Laurel). Azure, on a fess between three lozenges argent, a hedgehog sable.

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name registered on the November 2009 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2009/11/09-11lar.html).  

 

The previous submission, Lozengy azure and argent, on a fess argent a hedgehog statant to sinister sable, was returned on the November 2009 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/11/09-11lar.html) : "...conflict with the device of Óláfr Ljótarson af Řy, Lozengy argent and azure, on a fess argent fimbriated sable a cross crosslet fitchy between two oak leaves azure. There is a single CD for the multiple changes to the tertiary charge group. No difference is granted for swapping the tinctures of a lozengy field." 

 

This redesign clears the previous conflict.

 

3.  Elizabeth de Holecombe. Device resubmission (Kingdom). Argent, a chevron purpure between three pomegranates slipped and leaved proper within a bordure purpure.

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name was registered on the January 2010 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/01/10-01lar.html) via the Outlands.

This device was returned on the Outlands September 2009 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2009-08-lop/0909-lor.html) stating: "Administrative return: the submission was sent in using very old forms and was coloured with a colour printer and had the emblazons depicted using a non-standard and misshapen escutcheon. Please use the newest forms (available on the Rampart website) which are fillable-PDFs (for text) and colour the images using Crayola-brand classic markers to avoid future returns. Additionally, the client should address the following concerns when they resubmit: If the submitter would redraw the bordure to be thicker; as well as raising the chevron to more middle of the figure, and make the angle of the chevron steeper, to give more space and allow all the pomegranates to be larger and fill the spaces better."

This resubmission addresses the concerns in the return.

4.  Evaine atte Townesend. New name.

(Caer Galen). Gender: Female. Changes accepted.

[Evaine] Christopher Bruce, The Arthurian name Dictionary (1999), pg. 175-176. Header - Evaine, cites this name in three 13C old French versions of the Arthurian legends. Laurel precedent: 1. Jaelle of Armida, 7/96:"Given the use in period of many names from Arthuriana, we find the use of an undocumented name of a significant character whose name appears in period literature in this form acceptable." 2. Elsbeth Anne Roth, 6/99::"Current precedent is to accept the names of significant characters from period Arthurian literature as there is a pattern of such names being used in England and France in period." Evaine, the wife of King Bors and mother of Sir Bors and Sir Lionel, may be considered a significant Arthurian character.

[atte Townesend] Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English surnames (1995), p.452. Header - Townesend, dates this name in this spelling to 1327.

 

5.  Fontaine dans Sable, Barony of. Badge resubmission (Kingdom).Sable, an hour glass Or, within eight fleur-de-lis in annulo bases outward, argent.

(Fontaine) Submitter's name was registered on the March 2004 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/03/04-03alar.html) via the Outlands.

 

The previous badge submission, Argent, an hour glass proper within eight fleur-de-lis in annulo bases outward azure, was returned by Rampart on the Outlands February 2010 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2010-01-lop/1002-lor.html), stating:

 

RETURN re-draw: the hourglass should not be drawn transparent so as to see the sand.  Per the precedent of Baldwin of Erebor in ruling on the Badge for Company of the Hourglass. Per bend sinister sable and gules, on a pale argent an hourglass running vert: "NOTE: "Transparent charges are not in­period heraldry. Hourglasses were borne in solid tinctures." (WvS, 31 Oct 82, p. 13)". (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/baldwinret.html) In addition, it was the opinion of most of the commenters that there was too much white space in the badge - the fleurs need to be drawn bigger.

Submitter has re-drawn the badge to address the concerns raised in the previous return.

 

6.  Lamerick de Gyll.  New Name and Device. Azure, a chevron between three wyverns sejant argent.

(Dragonsspine) Gender: Male.Submitter requests authenticity of 15th Century English.  Changes accepted.

 

[Lamerick] - "English Given Names from 16th and Early 17th C Marriage Records" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/parishes/parishes.html) dates this spelling to 1589.

 

[de Gyll] - found in "Names from 15th Century York" by Karen Larsdatter (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/york15/surnames-alphabetical.htm).

 

7.  Sabyn Edwards. Device Resubmission (Laurel). Per pale vert and purpure, a dragonfly within a bordure argent.

(Rio de las Animas) Submitter's name was registered on the November 2009 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/11/09-11lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's previous device submission, Per pale vert and purpure, a dragonfly argent, was returned on the same letter stating: "This device is returned for conflict with the device of Mairghread Maire Draigdaimhalachd, Per saltire azure and vert, a dragonfly tergiant displayed argent, orbed Or. There is a single CD for the changes to the field."

 

Submitter has added a bordure to clear the conflict.

 

8.  Safiyya bint Faris al-Dani.  New Name and Device.  Sable, an estoc and paintbrush crossed in saltire Or, a compass rose Or above a ford proper.

(Bofharrach) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, and requests authenticity for "Andalusia - Arabs in Spain".  Changes accepted.

 

Submitter documents all elements of the name from "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" by Juliana de Luna, http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/andalusia.html

 

9.  Tómas Teárlach Fraser. Badge resubmission?  Argent, a merlion erect to sinister regardant gules.

(al-Barran) Submitter's name was registered on the August 1991 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1991/08/lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's previous badge submission, Argent, a sea-lion erect to sinister regardant gules, was returned by Laurel on the July 2009 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2009/07/09-07lar.html), stating:

This badge is returned for a redraw due to lack of identifiability of the sea-lion. Section VII.7.a of the Rules for Submission, Identification Requirement, states that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance." This depiction of a sea-lion does is drawn in a non-standard fashion with a very oddly shaped tail and dorsal fin. The submitter did not present, and commenters were unable to find, documentation showing that the submitted artwork resembles period depictions of sea-lions. Barring such documentation, this representation must be returned for lack of identifiability.

Properly drawn, this badge would not conflict with the device of Padraic Finbar O'Leary, Argent, a winged sea-lion erect contourny gules sustaining a tau cross bendwise sinister sable distilling three gouttes de sang, reblazoned elsewhere in this letter. There is a CD for the removal of the wings and a CD for the removal of the co-primary tau cross.

Submitter has re-submitted the same badge under a slightly altered blazon, and included 1 copy of a letter arguing for the stylistic elements in this animal depiction, with no additional documentation.

 

 

10.  Wilhelm Reissen. New Name.

(Fontaine) Gender: Male.  Changes accepted.

 

[Wilhelm] - "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html, under Masculine Given Names

 

[Reissen] - "German Names from Nürnberg, 1497" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html, under Surnames n-z

 

11.  Wystl de Tretower.  New Name and Device. Argent, a horse head reversed couped sable, on a chief gules three estoiles Or.

(Bofharrach) Gender: Female. Submitter cares most about the sound of the name.  Changes accepted.

 

[Wystl] - "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/welsh13.html) lists "Tangwystl" as a female name, which submitter chose to shorten to "Wystl".  This article also discusses the use of "de" to denote locative bynames.

 

[Tretower] - A fortified manor house in Wales dating to around 1300. (http://www.castlewales.com/tretwr.html)

 

 

 

Thus ends the April 2010 Letter of Presentation.

Your servant,

Randal Carrick

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