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Outlands College of Heralds

28 November 2009

From the Office of Rampart Herald
Baron Randal Carrick (Randall Jackson)
rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Unto Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald, and the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, does Randal Carrick, Rampart Herald send his greetings. What follows is the Letter of Response for November 2009CE, ruling on the October 2009 Letter of Presentation. I would like to thank the following heralds for providing commentary for this letter: Furukusu Masahide, Aspen Pursuivant; Francesca di Pavia, Ray de Soleil Pursuivant; Mistress Lijsbet van de Visschereye; Symon Cranmere; Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald; Ćđeluulf munuc, Fretty Herald; Sorcha MacLeod; Llywus ap Alan, Weel Herald; Jibra'il `Attar; and Gawain of Miskbridge, Green Anchor Herald. Your thoughtful and timely commentary has made my transition into this office much easier.
Finally, I would like to thank Ćđeluulf munuc for his work as Rampart, and for helping me find my way around the mountain of paperwork that comes with this office. Anyone interested in assisting with Submissions heraldry in the Outlands as Castle Herald should contact myself and Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald.

The following items were forwarded to Laurel Sovereign for final determination:

Elionora Brenan. New Name and Device. Per chevron azure and argent, two oak leaves Or and a pentacle sable. Re-blazoned as: Per chevron azure and argent, two oak leaves Or and a mullet of five points voided and interlaced within and conjoined to an annulet sable
Magdalena Lucia Ramberti. Device Change. Per bend sinister counter-ermine and ermine, a compass rose Or and a pomegranate gules slipped and leaved vert.
Magdalena Lucia Ramberti. New Badge. Fieldless, on a compass rose Or a pomegranate gules slipped and leaved vert. Re-Blazoned as (Fieldless) On a compass rose Or a pomegranate gules slipped and leaved vert
Outlands, Kingdom of the. New Badge. Per bend vert and Or a stag salient argent and a book vert.
Stephen Axtell. Device Resubmission. Per pale gules and azure, an arm couped embowed sustaining an axe Or. Re-blazoned as: Per pale gules and azure, an arm couped embowed sustaining an axe bendwise sinister Or.

The following items were returned for further work:

Adolf von Steinberg. New Device. Bendwise gules and Or a wolf's head razed and a bordure indented sable. The wolf’s head is too stylized and not identifiable as a wolf. Various commenters thought it to be a lion, a dragon, or some other beast. Further, the indentations on the bordure should not meet the edge of the device. Return for redraw.
László Rózsa. New Joint Badge. (Fieldless) a drakkar gules sails charged with three bezants one and two argent. Bezants are specifically defined as rondels Or... therefore these are plates. Because sails can be a form of armorial display, they must be conflict-checked independently. This sail would be blazoned as "Gules, three plates one and two." Therefore, conflict with Edwin Bersark (January 1973): Gules, a roundel so drawn as to represent a round shield battered in long and honourable service, argent. Conflict with arra Peller (April 1999): (Fieldless) Three plates conjoined one and two. Return for conflict. On resubmission, submitter is advised to remember that "According to the PicDic entry for “ship”, the drakkar has a dragon’s head prow [sic], a single sail, and the ship’s side lined with targes. The picture shows the sail set and also the oars in action. The client’s not only has its oars shipped, but has no visible oarports. It also shows the sail drawn realistically instead of the “plan view” the client has used. In addition, he [sic] has omitted the steering oar that should be hanging from the starboard quarter."
Ram's Keep, College of. Branch Name and Device Resubmission. Vert, a ram's head cabossed argent, within a bordure embattled Or, and in base a laurel wreath argent. Name returned for lack of documentation. Unfortunately, the word "Keep" as part of a place name is, without additional documentation showing a dated use as part of a place name, considered "SCA Compatible." Per the May 2008 Cover Letter, all SCA-Compatible status was revoked beginning with the May 2009 decision meetings, and all names must be fully documented without recourse to SCA-Compatibility. Due to the time it takes to get to a decision meeting, any submissions relying on SCA-Compatibility needed to be in Castle's hands by the beginning of December 2008. As we could find no documentation for the use of the word Keep in place names, the name must again be returned. Submitter is encouraged to appeal, with documentation of the circumstances surrounding the time gap between the previous submission and this submission, in order to be considered for a hardship exception under the old rules. Device returned for lack of a name with which to submit it. Submitter is also advised to make the laurel wreath larger in a resubmission.
Unser Hafen, Barony of. New Order Name - Order of the Stone Masons. Return for lack of documentation that this name follows any period order name construction.
Zaahira Bint Lu'Lu' al Balasiyyahi. New Household Name - Knarrarbringa - and Device. Per pall azure, sable and vert overall a compass star argent. The submitter’s name is not registered, so this household name and badge must be returned for a lack of a registered name with which to associate these items. The submitter is advised that this household name has several problems. 1. RfS III.2.b. states that household names must have a designator signifying the type of entity and at least one descriptive element. This name lacks the first of these – the name must be something like “House Knarrarbringa”. RfS III.2.b.ic. states that household names must follow the patterns of period names of organized groups of people, such as inns and military units. “Knarrarbringa” does not appear to meet this requirement. More documentation is required. Armory associated with a household are badges, not devices. Per RfSVIII.2.b.v. "Elements evenly divided in three tinctures must have good contrast between two of their parts." Field divisions per pall cannot be all colors or all metals. The compass star must either have all major points touching the edge of the shield (to be blazoned “throughout”) or have none of the points touching the edge of the device (to be a simple compass star). Changing one of the sections of the field to a metal, and re-positioning the compass star to be throughout or not will create a legal design, but would need to be conflict checked again.

Thus ends the November 2009 Letter of Response.

Baron Randal Carrick
Castle/Rampart Herald

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