Last modified: June 14, 2009

Outlands College of Heralds

June 14, 2009
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Baron Randal Carrick

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 14th day of June A.S. xxxxiv (2009 CE), does Don Randal Carrick send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald.


Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for June 2009. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by July 18, 2009, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for July 19, 2009.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

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1. Clare de Chepyng Campedene. New Device and Request for Reconsideration of Name. Lozengy azure and argent, on a fess argent a hedgehog statant to sinister sable

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name was registered on the February 2009 LoAR ( as Clare de Chepyng.  Submitter requests reconsideration of the decision by Laurel to drop the final name element in the registration, stating:

This name was registered on the February 2009 LoAR as Clare de Chepyng:

Submitted as Clare de Chepyng Campedene, past precedent has ruled that compound placenames cannot be used in English locative bynames:

Lyneyea of Aston-upon-Trent. Name. The name uses a compound locative as a byname, but no documentation was submitted and none found showing any English surnames that evolved from a full compound place-name rather than just the first part of the place-name. Such bynames were declared unregisterable for Spanish names in 2002:

Lacking documentation that compound forms of placenames like Santiago de Compostela were used in locative bynames, this cannot be registered. [Beatriz de Santiago de Compostela, 01/02, R-Caid]

Barring evidence of locative bynames formed from full compound placenames in English, such names cannot be registered. We would drop the compound and register the byname as Æstun, but the submitter will not accept major changes. [03/2005 LoAR, Meridies-R]

No new documentation was shown for locative bynames formed from full compound placenames in English, so they continue to be unregisterable. As the submitter allows all changes, we have dropped the final element of the place name to register the name as Clare de Chepyng.”

The name was returned as a compound placename (despite the ubiquity of compound placenames throughout England – not a discussion to enter into here). However, this is NOT a compound name. Chepyng is an affix, with the meaning market. See A Survey of the History of English Placenames by Dame Cateline de la Mor la souriete regarding affixes in English placenames (


"A final aspect of English place names are affixes. These additions to the place names usually occur as separate words such as Nether, St. Peter or Courtney. These serve as additional identifiers added to the name after it is formed. Most of these occur in records for the first time in the thirteenth century, though a few occur in the Domesday Book and many appear later (Cameron p. 107). There are two types of affixes: descriptives and owners. Descriptives could be that of direction (East, Middle, Lower, in Ribblesdale), size (Great or Magna, Little or Parva), shape (Broad, Long), distinguishing features (Cold, Broad Oak, Steeple), products (Flax, Iron, Beans), church dedications ( St. Martin , St. Cuthbert) and so forth. These descriptives could occur before or after the actual place name: Castle Rising occurs in Norfolk (Mills, p. 273), Sutton Coldfield in West Midlands (Mills, p. 316). Some location information occurs in a string of words as occurs in the name Hope under Dinsmore in Herefordshire and Worcestershire. Church dedications usually occur after the village name proper as in Chalfont St. Peter."

There is no place in England designated simply Chepyng (or, in modern spelling, Chipping). This is a descriptive affix describing the distinguishing feature of being a market town. There are (all in modern spellings – the towns are all ancient) Chipping Campden, Chipping Norton (meaning: Market North Town), Chipping Ongar, Chipping Sodbury (found near Old Sodbury and Little Sodbury – the affix is necessary to distinguish the three distinct locations), and Chipping Wycombe (until 1911, after which it became known as High Wycombe ).

From the town of Chipping Campden ’s website (

“A (Brief) History of Chipping Campden

The name Campden or Camperdene is believed to be a Saxon name meaning valley with fields, a written reference to Campden in the Domesday Book (1085), records that before the Norman conquest the manor of Camperdene had been held by King Harold.

By the early 13th century, the market area was being called 'Cepynge Caumpedene' (or 'Market Campden'). The word Chipping means market.

Chipping Campden established itself as a busy wooltraders town in the 14th century. Wool from Cotswold Sheep, grazed on the surrounding farmland, was graded, sold and transported to London .”

From a history of another Cotswolds town, Chipping Sodbury (

“Chipping Sodbury lies at the foot of the southern Cotswold escarpment below Dodington Park in southern Gloucestershire 8 miles north-west of Bristol . As the Chipping in its name implies, it was once an important market centre in medieval times and stands at the crossroads on the main route between Bristol , Oxford and London .

Chipping Sodbury is very similar to Chipping Norton in that it has a long market square, or Chepynge, as it was called in the medieval times and hence 'Chipping'. Known as Broad Street , this is bordered with a wonderful assortment of houses from every period, but largely 17th-century Cotswold stone buildings or Georgian of mellow brick. Most of these are now occupied by bright and cheerful shops which still retain a lively country atmosphere.”

In our original submission we documented the spelling and historical provenance of the name. Note that Chepyng is clearly defined as an affix:

A.D. Mills, A Dictionary of English Place-Names (Oxford University Press, 1991), p. 65, header “Campden, Broad & Chipping”: Campden, Broad & Chipping Glos Campedene 1086 (DB) Bradecampedene 1224, Chepyng Campedene 1287. ‘Valley with enclosures’. OE camp + denu. Affixes are OE brād ‘broad’ and OE cēpyng ‘market’.

(Explanations of abbreviations: “Glos” = Gloucestershire; DB = Domesday Book; OE = Old English)

Clearly, the word Chipping (Chepyng), on its own, does not designate a place at all, and so is not a valid placename. Both words are necessary to identify the village as it was known in the 14th Century.

The word Campden by itself is also inadequate to designating a specific place. As the source cited above states, there is another nearby village called Broad Campden (

“Broad Campden

The village of Broad Campden has been described as picturesque. It is an apt description. The village is set in rolling countryside, surrounded by fields of grazing sheep, and dissected by streams. The cottages that line the High Street are built of lovely golden Cotswold stone, as is the parish church, notable for its unusual round bellcote.

The name Campden appears to be derived from a Saxon phrase meaning, "Valley with fields." The Campden parish, composed of Chipping Campden, Broad Campden, Berrington, and Wessington, was held by King Harold at the time of the Norman Conquest.”

There is evidence from period documents that this place was known by this name and that people from that location were so identified. The following is from the Calendar of Patent Rolls of Edward II, vol . 10, p. 57, membrane 24d (Feb. 1, Westminster ) for the years 1354-1358 (

“Commission of oyer and terminer to William de Shareshull…on complaint by Geoffrey, abbot of Eynesham, that …John de Weleye of Chepyng-campedene, the elder…and others, at Mukelton, co, Gloucester, broke his close and houses…and assaulted his men and servants, whereby he lost their service for a great time.”


Based on all of the above evidence, the name as registered by Laurel is not only not what the submitter desires, it is historically inaccurate and incorrect. We urge reconsideration and registration of the submitter’s originally requested name.


2. Gwenhwyvar ferch Tewdrig.  New Device.  Argent, a sinister tierce counter-ermine, a cat sejant erect purpure.

(Unser Hafen) Submitter's name was registered on the November 1999 LoAR ( via Artemesia.


3. Heloise Stewart. New Name.

(Unser Hafen) Gender: Female. Submitter will not accept major or minor changes to the name, nor the creation of a holding name.


[Heloise] Submitter cites The Letters of Abelard and Heloise to date the name to the 12th century.  The name is also found in "Feminine Names from Devon, 1238" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (, dated to 1238.


[Stewart] This is submitter's legal surname (submitter has included a copy of her mundane driver's license to verify).  Also, Black, George, The Surnames of Scotland, p.747 dates the name to 1370.


4. Randal Carrick. Change of Device. Lozengy Or and Azure, on a bend purpure a carrot bendwise Or, leaved vert.

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name was registered on the January 2001 LoAR ( via the Outlands.  Submitter's original device, Argent, three peacock feathers conjoined in base proper and on a chief purpure a carrot Or leaved vert, was registered on the July 2002 LoAR ( via the Outlands.  If registered, submitter wishes to retain the original device as a badge.


5. Sabyn Edwards. Name and Device Resubmission. Per pale vert and purpure a dragonfly volant argent.

(Rio de los Animas) Gender: Female.  Submitter cares most about the meaning of the name.  Changes accepted.

Submitter's name and device were submitted on the May 2009 LoP ( a surname.  The submission was pended at Kingdom by Rampart to allow submitter to include a surname with the name submission, which follows:


[Sabyn] Listed in Femenine Given Names in DES, part 3, by Talan Gwynek (  Submitter also includes Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 3266 ( which states: 


ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3266 ************************************ 7 Mar 2007 From: Aryanhwy merch Catmael Greetings from the Academy of S. Gabriel! You wanted to know if we could find any further examples of the feminine name <Sabyn> in England or Wales between 1400 and 1600. Here is what we have found. As we noted in earlier correspondence, we found a number of forms in <Sabine> in England in the 12th to early 14th centuries, including <Sabine> 1279, <Sabyn> 1273, the Latin form <Sabina> 1186-1210, 1220, 1295, 1303, and 1319, and the diminutive <Sabelina> 1182-83 and 1197. [1,4] After the early 14th century, it appears that the name became more rare. In Suffolk in 1381, we've found one example of <Sabyn> and two of the Latinized form <Sabina>. We also found two examples of <Sabbe> in this data set; this may be a pet form of <Sabine>. [2,3] In the late 15th century, we find a mention of "Stephen Harlowe and Sabyn his wife" [7], and then we find a few examples of the name in the 16th century: <Sabine> 1518-1529, 1545, and <Sabyn> 1582. [8,9,10] We also found one <Saban Snow> who married in 1569; this may be a variant of the same name. [6] If you haven't picked a surname already, you can find lists of appropriate choices in the Medieval Names Archive at We haven't found any examples of this name used in Wales [5], though it's not impossible that it was; there were plenty of English people living in Wales during this period, and as a result, some English names were adopted into the Welsh naming pool. We hope that this letter has been useful to you, and that you won't hesitate to write us again if any part was unclear or if you have further questions. Research and commentary on this letter was provided by Maridonna Benvenuti, Ursula Georges, Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, Talan Gwynek, and Wenyeva atte Grene. For the Academy, -Aryanhwy merch Catmael, 07 March 2007


[Edwards] "Monumental Brass Enscriptions - Surnames A-H" by Julian Goodwyn ( dates the name to 1522.


6. Signy von Velden. Augmenation of Arms. Argent, on a bend vert cotised sable five crescents bendwise argent, and as an augmentation, on a canton sinister vert a key fesswise Or.

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name was registered on the October 1988 LoAR ( via the Outlands.  Submitter's current device, Argent, on a bend vert, cotised sable, five crescents argent, was registered on the July 1988 LoAR ( via the Outlands under the holding name Jocelyn von Velden.


Submitter's Augmentation of Arms was awarded on April 2, 1994 in the Kingdom of the Outlands ( for her service as Kingdom Seneschal.


7. Vadas Bálint. New Name.

(Caerthe) Gender: Male.  Submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, defined as 15th C. Hungarian.  Changes accepted.


From "Hungarian Names 101" by Walraven van Nijmmegen (


[Vadas] a common occupational byname meaning "hunter".


[Bálint] a common given name, occurring over 2% of the time in the 1453 and 1522 sources, and over 3% of the time in the 1574 source.


Construction - The article also indicates that name order of [occupational byname] + [given name] was common in Hungarian.


Thus ends the June 2009 Letter of Presentation.

Your servant,

Randal Carrick
Castle Herald

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