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Outlands College of Heralds

March 20, 2009
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Baron Randal Carrick
castle@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 19th day of March A.S. xxxxiii (2009 CE), does Don Randal Carrick send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White Stag Principal Herald.

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for March 2009. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by April 18, 2009, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for April 19, 2009.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.

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1. Æðeluulf munuc. New Badge.  Barry wavy argent and azure, a herring gules overall a bar gemmellied sable.

(al-Barran) Submitter's name was registered on the November 2007 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2007/11/07-11lar.html) via the Outlands.

2. Cadlae Horsey. New Name and Device. Per pale purpure and argent, a key facing sinister counterchanged.

(Dragonsspine) Gender:Any.  Submitter cares most about the sound of the name.  Changes accepted.

[Cadlae] Irish Names, Donnchadh ó Corráin and Fidelma Maguire, p. 40, header "Cadlae" - male, meaning "beautiful, comely".

[Horsey] The Surnames of Ireland, Edward MacLysaght, p. 162, header "Horsey" - an Anglo-Norman name in Ireland since the Thirteenth Century.

3. Carola von Naumburg. New Name and Device. Gules, two griffin heads erased Or, and a tower argent.

(Hawk's Hollow) Gender:Female.  Submitter cares most about the language and/or culture of the name, defined as German.  Changes accepted.

[Carola] Submitter's mundane first name (copy of driver's license included with submission).

[Naumburg] Town in Germany first menitoned in 1012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naumburg)

4. Cilléne mac Conghalaigh. Device Resubmission.  Azure, a lymphad argent and in chief a mullet eight points Or..

(Hawk's Hollow) Submitter's name was registered on the August 2007 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2007/08/07-08lar.html)

The previous submission, Azure, a fret argent, overall a lymphad sable, was returned by Kingdom on the January 2009 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2008-12-lop/0901-lor.html), stating:

"The sable overall charge is 'barely overall' the argent fret, and therefore has poor contrast with the azure field. The submitter is reminded that the overall charge must have good contrast with the field, not any of the charges it surmounts as 'overall'."

This submission is a complete redesign.

5. Conall Mór MacNachtan. Name and Device Resubmission. Per pale sable and argent three bees counterchanged.

(Drygestan) Gender: Male. Submitter cares most about the sound of the name Conall MacNachtan. Any changes to the descriptive byname Mór, or changes to spelling that would allow the registration are allowed.

Submitter's previous submissions, Conal MacNachtan, same device,  were returned by Laurel on the January 2008 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2008/01/08-01lar.html), stating: "This name conflicts with Connall MacNaughten, registered August 1983. The names are identical in sound and nearly identical in appearance.  This device is returned for administrative reasons: the submission was on a non-approved form. The escutcheon had been modified from the approved heater shape."  This submission adds a name element and submits the device on the correct form.

[Conall] Black, Surnames of Scotland, p. 168, header "Conall" - dates to 12th-16th C. Scotland.

[Mór] A descriptive byname meaning "big/large" in Scottish Gaelic

[MacNachtan] Black, Surnames of Scotland, p. 574, header "MacNachtan" - dates to 13th and 15th C. Scotland.

6. Conall Mór MacNachtan.  New Badge. (Fieldless) a bee per pale argent and sable.

(Drygestan) Submitter's name is submitted along with this submission

7. Conall of Stony Ford. Device Resubmission.  Per bend Or and argent, a retort gules, a cat sejant to sinister sable..

(Dragonsspine) Submitter's name was registered on the July 2001 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2001/07/01-07lar.html) via Calontir.

The device, Or, two cats rampant respectant sable, each maintaining a retort azure, was returned on the same LoAR, stating: "There are a number of conflicts including Flanders (important non-SCA arms), Or, a lion rampant sable. There is a CD for the number of primary charges, but nothing for the change in type between a cat and a lion and nothing for adding the maintained charges. "

This submission is a complete redesign of the device.

8. Daria Lebedeva. New Name and Device. Gules, a swan rising between four musical notes argent.

(Caerthe) Gender: Female.  Submitter will not accept major or minor changes to the name.

[Daria] Paul Goldschmit's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section D by Paul Goldschmidt (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/d.html), heading "Dar'ia" dates this spelling to 1566.

[Lebedeva] Paul Goldschmit's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section L by Paul Goldschmidt (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/l.html), heading "Lebed'" lists "Lebedev" as a patronymic dated to 1573.  the Grammar section of the dictionary (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/zgrammar.html)indicates that "women used the same types of patronymics as men. However, their bynames had to agree with the gender of teh subject, which, in Russian, means that they had to add an "a" on the end."

9. Dearbháil inghean Léoid.  Device Resubmission. Argent, a pile sable between two valknuts purpure.

(Schola Metallorum) Submitter's name was registered on the October 2007 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2007/10/07-10lar.html) via the Outlands.

The original submission, Argent, a pile sable between two valknuts purpure, was returned on the January 2008 LoAR(http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2008/01/08-01lar.html), stating: "This device is returned for a redraw of the valknuts. For purposes of SCA heraldry, a valknut is three voided triangles interlaced. The triangles in the submitted emblazon are not voided, nor are they really interlaced. There is a single triangular void in the center of each valknut, but that is the only place that the field shows; the field should be seen between sections of the interlaced triangles "

The device has been redrawn to show the field through all parts of the interlaced triangles.

10. Frank von Hunsrück. New Name and Device.  Or, an arrow fesswise point to dexter, between in pale a great dane statant and a great dane statant to sinister sable.

(Caerthe) Gender:Male.  Changes accepted.

[Frank] – “German Names from Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, 1441” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/rottweil1441.html) under the header of [Franciscus] lists one occurrence of [Frank], the whole list being dated to 1441.

[von Hunsrück] – Construction of [von] + place is documented in St. Gabriel Report #2929 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2929.txt), which states “In the 14th century surnames with [von] were used at all levels of society as one of three kinds of surname that identified a person by the place where she lived [4].  For example, the man whose name appears in the records of Frankfurt am Main as [Heincz von Buczpach] 1390, [H. Buczpach] 1389, and [H. Buczbecher] 1388 was presumably from the nearby town of Butzbach [5].”

[Hunsrück] – The German Tourist board site (http://www.germany-tourism.de/ENG/destination_germany/historic_towns/hunsrueck_and_nahe_region.htm) lists [Hunsruche] as the first mention of the region of [Hunsrück] as being part of a deed of gifts of estate to the Abby of Ravengiersburg, which was founded in 1074 and turned into a Catholic parish church in 1699.

The client prefers the spelling [Hunsrück] but will settle for [Hunsruche] or another period spelling if necessary for registration.

11. Harukiri Saitama Umewaka. New Name and Device. Argent, in bend a plum blossom (Japanese mon) and a fox sejant guardant gules.

(al-Barran) Gender:Female.  Submitter cares most about the sound of the name.  Sumbitter will not accept major changes to the name.

"The first and last name are from Name Construction in Medieval Japan by Solveig Throndardottir.  Harukiri is 'fog' in Japanese, and Umewaka is 'young or young plum'.  The middle name comes from the area of Saitama founded in 708" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saitama_Prefecture).

12. Marie le Noir de Navarre. Name Resubmission.

(Hawk's Hollow) Gender:Female. Submitter cares most about the language/culture of the name, left undefined but presumed to be French.  Submitter will not accept major changes to the name.

Submitter's previous submission, Marie de Navarre, was returned on the November 2008 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2008/11/08-11lar.html), stating: "This conflicts with Marie de Navarre, the wife of Peter the Ceremonious, King of Aragon in the mid-14th C. It also conflicts with Maria de Medici, wife of Henry III, King of Navarre from 1572 to 1610; as Queen Consort of Navarre from 1600 to 1610, she is properly known as Marie de Navarre.

Her armory was registered under the holding name Marie of Hawk's Hollow."

[Marie] Dictionaire Etymologique des Nom de Famille et Prénoms de France, Albert Dauzat, 1951, p. 46, header "Marie"

[le Noir] adjective "the Black"

[Navarre] Dictionaire Etymologique des Nom de Famille et Prénoms de France, Albert Dauzat, 1951, p. 448, header "Navarre"

13. Naa'ilah al-Raqqaash.ah. New Name

(Dragonsspine) Gender: Female.  Submitter cares most about the sound of the name.  Changes accepted.

Academy of Saint Gabriel letter (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3373.txt):

Greetings from the Academy of Saint Gabriel!

You asked for our opinion of <Naila al-Raqqasah> as a 6th to 13th
century Arabic feminine name meaning 'Naila the Dancer'. Here is what
we found.

Arabic names in your period could contain five types of elements: two
of these were the ism (personal name) and a nisba (a byname based on
occupation or geographical origin). The form <ism + nisba> is a common
historical form attested for female names as well as male [1].

<Naa'ilah> (a more correct spelling of <Naila>; \aa\ is a long \a\ and
the apostrophe represents a glottal stop, explained below) does not
appear to have been a common name in your period, but we were able to
find some examples. It was the name of a legendary pagan woman who was
turned to stone after fornicating with her lover near the Qaba, as
well as the name of the wife of <Uthmaan>, third Caliph of the Islamic
Empire, whom she married in 649 CE after converting to Islam [2]. An
Indian woman named <Biibii Naa'ilah> was the mother of  <Fiiruuz
Shaah> in the 13th century (the doubled vowels indicate long vowels)
[3].

We have not found <Naa'ilah> used by a Muslim woman after the seventh
century. We're not sure whether that reflects our lack of data or
whether Naa'ilah> was considered inappropriate as an Islamic name.
<Naa'ilah> is pronounced \naah-?ee-lah\, where \aah\ is the same as
\ah\ but longer in duration, and \?\ is the glottal stop, the 'catch
in the throat' heard between the two syllables of 'uh-oh'.

The occupational nisba <al-Raqqaas.ah> is found in an Arabic language
document from a collection of documents about the Jewish community in
Cairo between the 10th-12th centuries. (Here the period after the s
represents a dot under the previous letter, indicating an emphatic
consonant.) It is pronounced \ar-rah-QAAH-sah\, where the \Q\ is a
sound not found in English, similar to a \K\ but further back in the
mouth. Instead of making contact with the soft palate, the back of the
tongue makes contact with the uvula. The \AAH\ is like \AH\ but longer
in duration. Although the modern meaning is 'the dancer,' in your time
period <al-Raqqaas.ah> may have meant 'the errand girl' [4].

<Naa'ilah al-Raqqaas.ah> would be a plausible name for an Arab woman
in the early part of your period.  However, we are not certain whether
the byname has the meaning you requested, and we are not certain
whether <Naa'ilah> would have been suitable for a Muslim woman.

I hope this letter has been useful. Please write us again if any part
of it has been unclear or if you have other questions. I was assisted
in researching and writing this letter by Aryanhwy merch Catmael,
Bronwyn ferch Gwyn ap Rhys, David Cameron Staples, Juliana de Luna,
Mari neyn Bryan, Talan Gwynek, and Ursula Georges.

For the Academy,

Leonor Ruiz de Liso/n
9 January 2009

14. Outlands, Kingdom of the. New Heraldic Title - Besom Herald

(Outlands) Submitter cares most about the meaning of the name, defined as "An implement for sweeping; a broom." Changes accepted.

Under the heading of "besom,' the OED dates "besomes" (plural, we assume) to 1495.  We understand the singular to be "besom" or "besome."  We prefer the spelling "besom" (as it appears in the PicDic), but any of these spellings would be acceptable.  The besom is registered as a charge four times in the SCA, most recently in February 2006 (Herriðr Freyugyðja Ögvaldsdóttir, badge, via Atlantia, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2006/02/06-02lar.html).  It is longstanding SCA practice to name heraldic titles after a single legal heraldic charge (e.g. Trefoil Herald (Outlands, Kingdom of the, July 1988, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/1988/07/lar.html)); we find no precedent banning this practice nor impeding the usage of the besom in this manner.

15. Outlands, Kingdom of the.  New Order Name and Device - Order of Courage. Or, in saltire a stag's attire gules and a sword sable.

(Outlands) Changes accepted.

This Order name follows the meta-pattern (as listed in the August 2005 Cover Letter, http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2005/08/05-08cl.html) "Virtue", similar to the exemplar "Mercy".  It additionally follows the pattern (as defined in Meradudd Cethin's "Project Ordensnamen") "Quality".  

The word Courage is found as a header form in the Oxford English Dictionary, with relevant definition being number 4: "That quality of mind which shows itself in facing danger without fear or shrinking; bravery, boldness, valour".  There is a dated citation of this spelling in 1597: "Hooker Eccl. Pol. v. lxv. 20 The faith of Christ ... armeth us with patience, constancy, and courage."

16. Sixtus Goetz.  New Device. Or, a chevron cotised vert counterchanged.

(Dragonsspine) Submitter' name was registered on the November 2004 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2004/11/04-11lar.html) via Drachenwald.

17. Þóra Hrónarsdóttir. New Badge. Argent, a wyvern azure.

(St. Golias) Submitter's name was registered on the November 2002 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2002/11/02-11lar.html) via the Outlands.

18. Violante d'Atayde. Device Resubmission. Gules, on a cross throughout cotised Or another cross throughout sable, a bordure Or.

(Caer Galen) Submitter's name was registered on the October 2008 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2008/10/08-10lar.html) via the Outlands.

Submitter's previous submission, Gules, a chevron rayonny Or, was returned on the October 2008 Letter of Acceptances and Returns (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2008/10/08-10lar.html) for conflict. This is a complete rerdesign.