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Outlands College of Heralds
May 6, 2007
From the Office of the Castle Herald
Baronessa Francesca di Pavia, OP, OL
castle@outlandsheralds.org
UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and
colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all
others who come by these letters, on
this 6th day of May, A.S. xxxxii (2007 CE), does Maestra
Francesca
di
Pavia
send greetings on behalf of The Honourable Lady Marie de Blois, White
Stag Principal
Herald.
Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for
May 2007. Your comments and suggestions
are always welcome. Errors found herein are
undoubtedly mine.
Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail
commentary to the Rampart address is encouraged. Please have comments
on items contained herein to Rampart, Furukusu Masahide-dono,
by June 16, 2007, for the Rampart decision meeting tentatively
scheduled for June 17, 2007.
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I present the following items for your consideration:
1. Angel d'Auvergne.
Name and device resubmission. Ermine,
a horse rampant purpure, on a chief sable three fleurs-de-lys argent.
(Dragonsspine) No gender
specified. No other boxes checked.
The previous submission, Angel MacBridghe, was returned on the October
2007 LoAR: "As submitted, this name is two steps from period
practice. First, it mixes English and Gaelic. Second, it uses a Gaelic
matronymic. The given name is dated to the 16th C in England, so for a
temporally consistent name we would suggest a late 15th C or 16th C
Scots form of MacBride or a 16th C Anglicization of the Irish mac
Giollabhrighde. Black, The Surnames of Scotland, s.n. MacBride,
has Makilbred, Makgilbred, M'Gilbrid 1489-90,
and M'Ilvreidin 1612. Woulfe, Irish Names and Surnames,
s.n. Mac Giolla Bhríghde, lists M'Gillebridy, M'Gillvrid,
M'Killbridy, and M'Elvride as Anglicizations from the
late 16th and early 17th C. We would change the patronymic to one of
these forms, but the submitter will not accept major changes such as
the change in a language. In addition, Mac Bridghe and Mac
Giolla Bhrighde are significantly different in sound and
appearance, so we cannot change the patronymic to an appropriate Gaelic
form." The device was returned for lack of a name with which to
associate it, since a holding name was not acceptable to the client.
Angel: The submission form cites "Oxford Dictionary of English
Surnames" (pg 11). ??- should this be Withycombe
maybe? The name does appear in Withycombe (pg 24 in my 1977 hardcover
edition) states that the name in this spelling was found as a male name
in England, especially Cornwall, from the 16th century onward. (Castle note:
please say in your documentation what your source says about the name -
not needing photocopies doesn't mean you can just state the name of the
book and you're done!)
d'Auvergne: Academy of St. Gabriel report 1719 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1719.txt)
states that "Auvergne" is recorded in the 11th-12th Century.
2. Connal MacNachtan. New
name and device. Per pale sable and
argent, three bees counterchanged.
(Drygestan) Gender: Male.
The client cares most about the sound of the name. No major changes
accepted.
Connal: Black, Surnames
of Scotland, p. 168: "sn. CONNAL, CONNELL et al: 'Modern for
Congal or Cingual, Cuthbert...Connell was a voter in the parish of
Qwilton (now Coylton), 1513. Cf. Gille-Conal' s.n. GILLECONAL (.303)"
MacNachtan: Black, Surnames
of Scotland, p. 547: "s.n. MACNACHTAN, MACNAUGHTAN, et al: 'q.v.
Gillecrist Mac Nachtan granted the church of Kelmurkhe (Kilmorich) in
1247 to the Abbey of Inchaffray...Donald Macnachtane, son of an
unmarried nobleman and an unmarried woman, was dean of Dunkeld in
1431...Sir Duncan McNachtan was dean of Dunkeld in 1438.' "
3. Delara-yi Shirazi. Device
resubmission. Per pile inverted
argent and purpure, a pegasus passant and two scimitars purpure.
(Dragonsspine)
The name is curently in submission; it was sent to Laurel on the January
2007 Letter of Intent. The previous device submission,
Azure and purpure gyronny, in base a pegasus passant, in chief two
scimitars argent, was returned on the September
2006 Letter of Response: "The device is actually three piles in
point, as a gyronny would have equal divisions, and they would be
conjoined in the center of the field. Given that this is three piles,
they violate Rfs.VIII.2.b.i - Contrast Requirements - which states that
the field must have good contrast with all charges placed upon it. In
this case, the three piles are of a color, and not a metal. Having a
color (purple) on a colored field (blue) does not provide good
contrast. Rfs.VIII.2.a - Contrasting Tinctures - defines good contrast,
namely a metal on a color, or a color on a metal. This rule holds true
even if this device were a form of gyronny. "
4. Domingo Diaz de la Vega. New
badge. Sable, on a pale Or a cross
of Santiago gules, two scallops Or.
(Caerthe)
The name was registered in April 2000.
5. Hassaan an-Najjar ar-Ruumii ibn
'Abd al-Azalii an-Najjar ibn 'Abd al-Baa'ith ar-Rashiid. New
name and device. Argent, upon a
hand sable a bezant within a bordure gules.
(Dragonsspine) Gender: Male. The client cares most about the
language/culture of the name, and wants an authentic Arabic name
(period not specified). No major changes accepted.
"Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Da'ud ibn Auda (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm)
[1];
"The One Hundred Most Beautiful Names of God"
by Mustapha al-Muhaddith ibn al-Saqaat (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mustapha/cnamesofgod.html)
[2]
I leave plowing through these articles for the documentation of this
name as an exercise for the reader.
Email from Ursula Georges, Academy of St. Gabriel: "You asked about the
masculine Arabic name <Hassan al-Najjar al-Rumi ibn abd al'Azalee al
Najjar ibn al-Ba'eeth al Rashid>. You found the elements of the name
in (the two articles cited above). The general structure of the name is
reasonable, though you would probably have used just a given name and
one or two bynames in all but the most formal situations. We do have a
few comments about spelling, tansliteration and punctuation. Your two
sources use different systems for transliterating Arabic into English.
Following the transliteration system of [1], your names could be
written as <Hassan al-Najjar al-Rumi ibn and al'Azali al Najjar ibn
Abd al-Ba'ith al Rashid>. Note that we have written <Abd
al-Ba'ith>; <al-Ba'ith>, "Raiser from the Dead" is an epithet
of God, while <Abd al-Ba'ith> means "servant of the Raiser from
the Dead". A more accurate transliteration, using double letters to
indicate Arabic long vowels, would be <H.assaan an-Najjaar ar-Ruumii
ibn 'Abd al-Azalii an-Najjaar ibn 'Abd al-Baa'ith ar-Rashiid>
(cites: Dodge, Baynard, The
Fihrist of al-Nadim (New York: Columbia University Press, 1970),
and "The Divine Names" by Aisha Bewley (http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/names.html))
. (Here the period after the 'H' in <H.assaan> represents a small
dot underneath that letter.) The spellings <an-Najjar> and
<ar-Ruumii> reflect the Arabic pronunciation of these parts of
the name: the 'l' in the definite article <al-> is not pronounced
before an \N\ or \R\ sound." (Castle
note: guys, if you have an email that is a critical part of your
documentation, can you forward it to me so I can cut and paste instead
of retyping the whole thing, with all the error potential that entails?
I do not have OCR software, so scanning it in is not an option.)
6. Seamus MacCrae. Name
resubmission for Séamus
MacDhùghaill.
(Dragonsspine). Gender:
Male. The client cares most about the language/culture of the name,
though what langualge/culture he believes that to be is not specified.
The previous submission was returned on the October
2006 LoAR for conflict: "This name is a direct conflict with Seamus
mac Dubhghaill, registered June, 2006. To clear this conflict, we
recommend that the submitter add a Gaelic descriptive byname.The
spelling MacDhùghaill was documented from Black, The
Surnames of Scotland. Please note that when Black documents a name
as simply "Gaelic", he means that it is modern Gaelic. Unless
documentation is provided showing that these spellings are found in
period, they are, in general, not registerable. His armory was
registered under the holding name Séamus of Dragonsspine."
Seamus: O'Corrain & Maguire, Irish Names, p. 162.
MacCrae: Black, Surnames of
Scotland, pg 479.
(Castle note: heralds, remember to
write on your submission forms what it says on those pages!!!)
7. Soren Thorvaldsson.
New name and device. Vert, a beehive
Or, on a chief argent two axes in saltire sable.
(Dragonsspine). Gender:
Male. The client cares most about the language/culture of the name, and
is interested in having an authentic Swedish/Scandinavian name (period
not specified).
Soren: Academy of St. Gabriel Report 1952 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1952.txt)
states this name is derived from the name of St. Severinus, found in
Denmark from1400 on. It is found in the spelling <Sojren> in
1403-1540, though <Sewryn> and <Sewren> were more common in
the period. The name came to Norway ca. 1440 as <Sojren>, and was
likely in use in Sweden by the 16th Century.
Thorvaldsson: Academy of St. Gabriel Report 3090 (http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3090.txt)
documents <Thorvaldr> as a 9th-10th-century Norwegian/Icelandic
masculine name.
Thus ends the May 2007
Letter of Presentation.
Your servant,
Francesca di Pavia
Castle Herald
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