Outlands College of Heralds
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Pendar the Bard - 10 Magnifico - Los Lunas, NM 87031 - (505) 866-4369
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UNTO the members of the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, and all others who generously give of their time and talents in commentary on this Letter of Presentation, upon this 6th day of February, A.S. XXXVI (2002 CE),

DOES The Honorable Lord Pendar the Bard, Rampart Herald, send

GREETINGS!

On behalf of Master Balthazar Tigrerro, White Stag Principal Herald,
I present the following items for your consideration:

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  1. Alessandra da Monte. New Name and Device. Per bend sinister dancetty purpure and Or, a sun and a trimount counterchanged.

  2. Caerthe, Barony of
    "Alessandra" is found on a website linked from the College of Saint Gabriel titled Italian Renaissance Women's Names by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (Jo Lori Drake). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/rhian/italian.html It is a list of Italian feminine names from Florence in the 14th and 15th centuries drawn from The Society of Renaissance Florence: A Documentary Study (ed. Gene Brukerm New York: Harper Torchbooks, Harper and Row, Inc.), which is a collection of diaries and documents of the period, and from The Autobiography of Benevenuto Cellini, as published by Penguin Books. The byname, "da Monte" is documented using another St. Gabriel website titled Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman) and Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/ She will allow changes and is most interested in having her name be authentic for the language/culture. Will the fact that the line of division doesn't actually connect to the corner in sinister chief require the device to be redrawn? Can a trimount be free floating like this or does it have to be issuant from base?

  3. Alisaundre la Couturière. New Name.

  4. Caer Galen, Shire of
    "Alisaundre" is found in Withycombe, page 14, under the heading "Alexandra". An early 14th century English legendary gives "Alisaundre" as the name of the mother of St. Thomas of Canterbury. "la Couturière" is found in Dauzat, page 215 under "Couture - Couturière" 12th century; the masculine, eliminated by "tailor" in the 16th century; was taken again in the 19th century and was specialized for female costumes. She will not accept major changes and is interested in having her name be authentic for the French language/culture.

  5. Caerthe, Barony of. New Badge. Or, a dragon passant gules, a bordure embattled sable.

  6. Chavah bat Mordecai. New Name and Device. Per fess purpure and vert, a shooting star bendwise sinister argent.

  7. Caer Galen, Shire of
    "Chavah" is the anglicized form of the Hebrew name "Chaiya" (pronounced with a "ch" as in Gaelic or German). It appears to be one form of the name that was turned into "Eve" in English. Children who were ill were sometimes given "Chaiya" or "Chaim" (which means "life") as a new or additional name to confuse the evil eye. (From Kaganoff, B. "A Dictionary of Jewish Names and their History.) The full report on this name can be found at http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?328+0 At the bottom of that article is a footnote: "The Hebrew spelling of Chavah given here is incorrect; the name is spelled het-vav-heh in Genesis 3:20. However, it is not clear that Chaiya is in fact derived from Chavah and therefore that this spelling is appropriate. Chaiya is identical to the feminine singular form of the Hebrew adjective "living", so we recommend using the Hebrew spelling of that word, het-yud-heh." See also the article at http://hlsl.site.yahoo.net/hlsl/eve.html "bat" is simply the hebrew patronymic meaning "daughter of". "Mordecai" is found in A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their History (Benzion Kaganoff, 1978) pages 43, 47, 157 (under "Gompertz"), 176 (under "Meisel", where it is dated back to the middle of the 16th century). She will not accept major changes and is interested in having her name be authentic for the Jewish language/culture. A "shooting star" is the same as a comet but has its head to base by default.

  8. Chiara della Luna. New Name and Device. Sable, a crescent and on a chief argent three ermine spots gules.

  9. Caerthe, Barony of
    "Chiara" is found on a website linked from the College of Saint Gabriel titled Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427 by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/ It is a list of Italian feminine names from Florence in the 15th century drawn from Census and Property Survey of Florentine Domains in the Province of Tuscany, 1427-1480. By David Herlihy and Christiane Klapisch-Zuber. Machine readable data file. Online Catasto of 1427 Version 1.1. Online Florentine Renaissance Resources: Brown University, Providence, R.I., 1996. The database identifies 1562 women who share 255 separate names. "Chiara" is on the list of names which occur fewer than 5 times. The byname, "della Luna" is documented using another St. Gabriel website titled Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427 by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/family_names.html She will accept changes.

  10. Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of. New Order Name for "Order of the Archers of Agincourt" and Badge. Azure, between two piles inverted argent, a pheon Or.

  11. This is obviously an award for archers which is intended to invoke glorious images of the English archers in the battle of Agincourt, won by Henry V, October 25, 1415. This image has become a horrid cliche in the SCA since anyone doing their homework would discover that there were thousands of French crossbowmen who were not allowed to fire on the English so that the French knights could capture them for ransom. It was not so much the English archers that won the day, but mud and French greed. But I digress... The structure of the order name strikes me as odd. The submitting herald declared that this is similar to the "Order of the Defenders of Thermopylae", which was registered to the Barony in September 1988. Unfortunately, it was not registered as "Defenders of Thermopylae" but simply as "Order of Thermopylae." Those who are given the award are styled as "Defenders of Thermopylae". I believe the same thing will be required here. Have it registered as "Order of Agincourt" and style those who receive it as "Archers of Agincourt". Unfortunately "Order of Agincourt" conflicts with the English title "Agincourt King of Arms." The unusual style of the badge is grandfathered to the Barony.

  12. Constance Warwick of Wyndermere. New Name and Device. Per chevron argent and azure, two roses azure seeded Or and a cross patonce argent.

  13. Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of
    "Constance" is found in Withycombe, page 72, under its own heading, dated to use in England from the Norman conquest. It was borne by one of the daughters of the Conquerer and soon became common. "Warwick" is found in Reaney and Wilson, page 477, under its own heading. It simply means "from Warwick" and variants are dated to as early as 1086. "Windermere" is a British lake measuring over 10 miles located in the Cumbria lake district in the NW of England. It is also the name of a town built near the lake. The documentation provided is from a website, http://www.netsync.net/users/obrienaj/abtwmere.htm which gives its location and uses, but not a date of origin. It is the site of an ancient Roman fort named Galava, built circa 79 c.e., (which is completely irrelevant, but three different sources were submitted to document this!) Reaney documents lots of period spelling variants using wind/wynd. The problem here is that this name uses two locative bynames. She will allow the middle element to be changed to "Warrick", an occupational byname found in Reaney and Wilson, page 477, which even R&W concedes is often confused with Warwick. If an element needs to be dropped, she would prefer to keep "Wyndermere", (which wasn't dated to period.) She is interested in having her name be authentic for "Britain 12-1300". The device is close but clear of Lora Ann Ros (10/99 Calontir): Per chevron argent and azure, two roses and a dragon rampant, a bordure counterchanged.

  14. Eirne inghean Domnall. Name Resubmission (K) and Device Resubmission (K). Argent, a shamrock vert, on a chief azure a rose Or barbed vert.

  15. Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of
    Her previous name submission, Erin Rose nic Daniel of Tara, was returned on the May 2001 Letter of Response for using a modern American given name, a second given name, for which there is no evidence in period Irish at all (and which has been cause for return or modification of submissions in the past), a modern patronymic connector, and an unusable locative. "Tara" is the traditional high seat of Irish kings, not a place that people are from. "Éirne" is found in O'C&M, page 89, under the heading Érne. In Irish legend Érne is daughter of Búrc Búiredach and Lough Erne is named after her. "Domnall" is found in O'C&M, page 75. This is the ninth most popular name in early Ireland. It was the name of five high kings. As a patronymic, it should be lenited to "Domhnaill". If her name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture and meaning, which she defines as "Erin daughter of Daniel". She is interested in having her name be authentic for 1590 Ireland. Her previous device, identical to this one, was returned for a redraw. The rose was colored orange rather than yellow. Close but clear of Myles of the Shamrock (5/73): Argent, a shamrock vert. 1 CD for adding the chief RfS X.4.b, and 1 CD for adding the tertiary RfS X.4.i.

  16. Eirne inghean Domnall. Badge Resubmission (K). (Fieldless) A rose Or slipped and leaved in bend sinister surmounted on the slip by a shamrock vert.

  17. Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of
    Her previous badge, identical to this one, was returned on the May 2001 LoR for a redraw. The rose was orange instead of yellow. The layout strikes me as being extremely odd, but I can't find any specific rules or precedents to return it.

  18. Ilaria Jacqueline Montrevel. New Name and Device. Per bend sinister embattled argent and azure, four gouttes-de-sang in cross and three compass stars Or.

  19. Scorpions Hollow, Shire of
    "Ilaria" is documented using a website about the tomb of Ilaria del Carretto, who died in 1405. http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/html/q/quercia/bologna/ilaria.html "Jacqueline" is found in Withycombe, page 170, as a French diminutive of Jacques, found in England from time to time from the 13th to 17th century. "Montreval" is a city in the French Rhone Alps. A map was provided showing Montreval to be just NW of Geneve, but no source documentation was provided and nothing which dates the name to period. I could find nothing in my sources or on the web. Any help here would be appreciated. There is no doubt that there was contact between France and Italy in period. A name combining elements from each culture would not be terribly unusual, though it would probably favor the spelling of one or the other. Using double given names was fashionable in late period France according to Withycombe, page xliii. If a name element must be dropped, she would prefer to keep "Ilaria". She will allow changes and is interested in having her name be authentic for a French/Italian border name.

  20. Michael Patrick MacBain. Device Resubmission (K). Quarterly sable and purpure, a ram's skull cabossed and a bordure argent semy of trefoils sable.

  21. al-Barran, Barony of
    His name was registered in April of 1998 via the Outlands. His first device attempt, Quarterly sable and purpure, a ram's skull cabossed, was returned from kingdom in December 1999 for conflict. His second device submission, Purpure, on a pale argent two shamrocks sable, overall a ram's skull cabossed counterchanged., was returned in December 2000 for counterchanging an animate object across an ordinary. "We don't allow counterchanging of animate objects over ordinaries." (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR September 1996, p. 13)

  22. Mór ingen Cathail. New Name and Device. Per pale vert and Or, a dragon couchant to sinister and a wolf couchant counterchanged.

  23. Caerthe, Barony of
    "Mór" is found in O'C&M, page 139, where it is said to be the most popular female name in use in later medieval Ireland. "Cathail" is the genetive form of "Cathal", also found in O'C&M, page 47, where it is said to be one of the most common names in Ireland in the early middle ages. Great name! The device will obviously have to be returned for the appearance of marshalling as per RfS XI.3.

  24. Nichola Hawoc. New Name.

  25. Hawk's Hollow, Canton of
    "Nichola" is found in A List of Feminine Personal Names found in Scottish Records by Talan Gwynek, http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/talan/scottishfem/ "Hawoc" is found in Reaney and Wilson, page 221, under the heading "Hawk". Willelmus filius Hawoc 1240-5; Black. She is most interested in having her name be authentic for 14-15th century "Scottish".

  26. Rhain McHenrik. New Name and Device. Azure,a pall inverted Or between two tygres combattant and a Celtic cross argent.

  27. Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of
    "Rhain" is found in British Kings and Queens: The Complete Biographical Encyclopedia of the Kings and Queens of Great Britain by Mike Ashley, Barnes & Noble, New York. According to this source Rhain was the ruler of the Gaelic settlement of Dyfed in the 730's. The client originally wanted "Ryon", but couldn't document the spelling with the "o". The Gaelic form, according to O'C&M, page 155, is Rígán: Ríoghán, pronounced roughly ree-ain. "McHenrik" is found in Black, page 509, under the heading MacHendrie, dated to 1590. He will not accept major changes, cares most about the sound and language/culture, and is interested in having his name be authentic for the British language/culture. He has already accepted awards with this name making him less likely to be willing to change it. He would accept an all Gaelic version. According to Black, the Gaelic form of McHenrik is MacEanruig, not dated.

  28. Santiago Carrillo de Guadalupe. New Name and Device. Purpure, on a pile wavy argent a savage's head cabossed vert.

  29. Drygestan, Shire of
    "Santiago" is documented using a website titled 16th-century Spanish Men's Names by Elsbeth Anne Roth (Kathy Van Stone). It is a list of some men's names found in a catalog of passengers from Spain to the Americas from the 16th century. The rest of the name comes from another website titled Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith). In the Names from the Account Books of Isabel la Catolica (1477-1504) there appears a Juan Carrillo de Guadalupe. He will accept changes and is most interested in having his name be authentic for the 15th-16th century Spanish language/culture.

  30. Valréas de Fraier. New Name and Device. Per chevron sable and Or, in chief a heart issuant from the line of division and in base a cup counterchanged.

  31. Scorpions Hollow, Shire of
    "Valréas is found in Dictionaire Étymologique de Noms de Famille by Maire-Therese Morlet, page 950, under the heading Valleriaz, dated to 1110. "Fraier" is found on page 428 of the same source under the heading Fray, Fraye. She will accept changes, the desired gender of her name is female, and she is most interested in having her name be authentic for the French language/culture. The only precedent I could find in regard to the heart being issuant from the line of division is that it must have good contrast with the other half of the field, which this does.

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