LoAR Results of the April 17, 2002 Letter of Intent

Below are the results of the August 2002 Letter of Acceptance and Return from the Laurel King of Arms. This website is not authoritative, but is an accurate reproduction of the text of the August LoAR.

April 2002 Letter of Intent Return to the Rampart home page.

ACCEPTANCES

Alessandra da Monte. Name and device. Per bend sinister indented purpure and Or, a sun and a trimount couped counterchanged.

Alisaundre la couturière. Name.

Submitted as Alisaundre la Couturière, the submitter requested authenticity for French. We have lowercased the byname to follow the examples Kateline [une] couturière and Aalot le couturier (a masculine name) found in Colm Dubh's article "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html. As the College was unable to find evidence of any feminine form of Alexander (including Alisaundre) used in French in period, we were unable to make this name completely authentic for the submitter's requested culture.

Bohémond le Sinistre. Badge. Sable semy-de-lys argent.

He has permission to conflict with Geoffrey de la Brugge, Sable, in pale two fleurs-de-lys argent.

Chavah bat Mordechai. Name and device. Per fess purpure and vert, a shooting star bendwise sinister argent.

Submitted as Chavah bat Mordecai, we have modified the name to use a consistent transliteration system.

Chiara della Luna. Name and device. Sable, a crescent and on a chief argent three ermine spots gules.

Citadel of the Southern Pass, Barony of. Badge. Azure, a pheon Or between two piles inverted argent.

Constance Warrock de Winandemere. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Constance Warwick of Wyndermere, the submitter requested authenticity for Britain during 1200-1300 and allowed minor changes. The LoI stated that:She will allow the middle element to be changed to “Warrick”, an occupational byname found in Reaney and Wilson, page 477, which even R&W concedes is often confused with Warwick. [...] If an element needs to be dropped, she would prefer to keep “Wyndermere”In the submitter's desired time period, bynames were used literally. As both Warwick and Wyndermere refer to locations, these two bynames would not have been used in the same name during the submitter's desired time period. Bardsley (p. 795 s.n. Warwick) dates John de Warrewyc, Matilda de Warewyck, and John de Warewyk to 1273. So authentic forms indicating a woman from Warwick in the submitter's desired time period would be Constance de Warrewyc, Constance de Warewyck, and Constance de Warewyk. Ekwall (p. 524 s.n. Windermere) dates the forms Winandemere to 1203 and Wynandermer to 1282. So authentic forms indicating a woman from Windeermere in the submitter's desired time period would be Constance de Winandemere and Constance de Wynandermer.
The submitter indicated that she was willing to change Warwick to Warrick. Reaney & Wilson (p. 477 s.n. Warrick) date Roger Warrock to 1271 and give this as an occupational byname indicating a maker of warrocks, which were wedges used to tighten scaffolding, or a builder of scaffolds. Authentic forms of a name for 1200-1300 indicated that a woman named Constance was involved in making warrocks or scaffolds and was from Windermere, would be Constance Warrock de Winandemere and Constance Warrock de Wynandermer. As the first of these is the name closest to the submitted form that is authentic for the submitter's requested time period, we have changed the name to this form in order to meet the submitter's request for authenticity.
It is worth noting that the submitted name, with a minor spelling change to the final element, would be authentic for the late 16th to the early 17th C. By the 16th C, inherited surnames had come into use. Julian Goodwyn's article "Brass Enscription Index" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/) dates Constance to 1581. Bardsley (p. 795 s.n. Warwick) dates Richard Warwick to 1601. Speed, The Counties of Britain (p. 182, map of Westmorland, most maps dated 1610), lists a town or village named Wynandermere. So, Constance Warwick of Wynandermere (which adds only two characters to the submitted Wyndermere) would be an authentic form of this name for the late 16th - early 17th C.

Danette of the Outlands. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Argent, a shamrock vert and on a chief azure a rose Or barbed vert.

Submitted under the name Éirne inghean Domhnaill.

Danette of the Outlands. Badge. (Fieldless) A rose Or slipped and leaved bendwise sinister surmounted on the slip by a shamrock vert.

Michael Patrick MacBain. Device. Quarterly sable and purpure, a ram's skull cabossed argent and a bordure argent semy of trefoils sable.

Please advise the submitter to draw the bordure somewhat wider and the trefoils on the bordure larger.

Mór inghean Chathail. Name.

Submitted as Mór ingen Cathail, the submitter requested authenticity for 13th to 14th C. Irish. Lenition was omitted from the submitted form of the byname. Mór ingen Chathail is the authentic form of this name for Middle Irish Gaelic (c. 900 to c. 1200). Mór inghean Chathail is the authentic form of this name for Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c. 1200 to c. 1700). We have changed this name to the Early Modern Irish Gaelic form to make this name authentic for the submitter's requested time period.

Nichola Hawoc. Name.

Santiago Carrillo de Guadalupe. Name.

Tangwystl Angharad verch Rhys. Name and device. Per bend azure and argent, a mullet argent and a tulip bendwise azure, slipped and leaved vert.

Note: Angharad is used as an unmarked matronymic in this name, not as a second given name (or "middle" name). To date, no examples have been found of double given names used in Welsh. Documentation from Harpy was provided with this submission supporting Tangwystl verch Angharad verch Rhys, meaning 'Tangwystyl daughter of Angharad daughter of Rhys', as a name following period Welsh name construction patterns. Documentation was also provided that it was not uncommon to omit one or more of the particles meaning 'son' or 'daughter' in a Welsh name in late period, supporting the submitted form as a variant of Tangwystl verch Angharad verch Rhys.
The device does not conflict with Arthur FitzRobert of Wiverneweald, Per bend azure and argent, a bear statant and a mullet of six points counterchanged. The devices are clear of conflict because (quoting RfS X.2) "the type of every primary charge has substantially changed", and the armory has "no more than two types of charge directly on the field". Note that even though both charge groups use a mullet, the type of every primary charge has substantially changed. By the following precedent this is therefore clear by RfS X.2:[Per chevron argent and sable, two towers and a horse rampant counterchanged.] Clear of ... Argent, upon a pile inverted throughout between two ravens sable a tower argent, because the type of each charge in the group has been substantially changed, even though each group contains a tower. RfS X.2. states that: "Simple armoury does not conflict with other simple armoury if the type of every primary charge is substantially changed." Laurel takes this to mean that the type of every charge must be substantially changed from its corresponding charge in the armory being compared, not the type of every charge must be substantially changed from the type of every charge in the other armory. (There is no CD for the field, since we treat per chevron and a pile inverted as equivalent for purposes of difference.) (LoAR December 1995)The 1995 precedent stated above was upheld in an analogous ruling in the LoAR of October 1998.

Ylaire Jacqueline de Montrivel. Name and device. Per bend sinister embattled argent and azure, four gouttes-de-sang in cross and three compass stars Or.

Submitted as Ilaria Jacqueline_Montrevel, the submitter requested an authentic French/Italian border name and allowed any changes. She noted that if the double given name was not registerable, then she preferred to drop Jacqueline and keep Ilaria.
In period, a name mixing Italian and French elements would have been written all in Italian or all in French depending upon whether the document that included the name was written in Italian or French. Colm Dubh's article "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html) lists Dame Ylaire la lingière and Dame Jaqueline la Bordonne. Argent Snail found other period forms of portions of this name:Jacqueline is found in Morlet Picarde [Marie-Thérèse Morlet, Étude d'Anthroponymie Picarde]. While she does not explicitly dated it, all of the names in the book are from the 13th through 15th centuries. Dauzat and Rostaing, under Mons, have Montrevel, with the form Montrivel dated to 1198.From this information, an authentic French form of this name would be Ylaire Jaqueline de Montrivel or Ylaire Jacqueline de Montrivel. As we were unable to find forms of Jacqueline or Montrevel in Italian, we were unable to determine an authentic Italian form of this name. We have changed this name to the second of the French forms listed above to meet the submitter's request for authenticity.
As submitted, this name contains an Italian given name, a French given name, and a French locative byname. Since mixing French and Italian in a single name is only one weirdness, Ilaria Jacqueline de Montrivel would be a registerable, though not authentic, form of this name that would be close to the originally submitted form.

RETURNS

Constance Warrock de Winandemere. Device. Per chevron argent and azure, two roses azure seeded Or and a cross patonce argent.

Conflict with Roxanne of Anglesey, Per chevron argent and azure, three primroses, one and two, azure, and a candle argent, enflamed and resting in a holder Or. There is one CD for changing the number of charges in the group, from four to three. There is no additional difference for changing the type of charge group. Primroses are cinquefoil-like charges with no difference from roses. RfS X.4.e states "Changing the type of at least half of the charges in a group is one clear difference." All that has changed in respect to Roxanne's armory is one-fourth of the group. This is therefore in conflict. Note that if Roxanne had three charges, like Constance, there would have been a second CD for changing the type of the bottommost of a group of three charges arranged two and one, which would count for half the charge group in both cases, per the Cover Letter of 6 September 1990: "After much thought and discussion, it has been decided, for purposes of X.4.d.,e., and h. of the Rules for Submission, that the bottommost of three charges, either on the field alone or around an ordinary is defined as one-half of the group."

Éirne inghean Domhnaill. Name.

Éirne was documented only as the name of a woman in Irish legend. Lacking evidence that it was used by humans in period, it is not registerable.
Her armory was registered under the holding name Danette of the Outlands.

Rhain McHenrik. Name and device. Azure, a pall inverted Or between two tygers combattant and an equal-armed Celtic cross argent.

This name combines a Welsh name dated to the 5th to 9th C with a Scots byname dated to 1590. Therefore, this name has two weirdnesses (one for mixing Welsh and Scots, and one for a temporal disparity of more than 300 years), which is cause for return.
The LoI noted that the submitter originally wanted Ryon as a given name, but could not document that spelling. Given that information, the submitter may want to consider the Irish Gaelic given name Rian. Ó Corráin & Maguire (p. 155 s.n. Ríán) which lists a saint of this name and notes that the modern surname Ó Riain (O Ryan) derives from this name. Rian is an Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c. 1200 to c. 1700) form of this given name and would be registerable under the guidelines for the registerability of saints' names given in the Cover Letter for the September 2001 LoAR. Therefore, Rian McHenrik would have a single weirdness for mixing Gaelic and Scots in a name, but would not have the temporal disparity that exists in the name Rhain McHenrik. As the submitter did not allow major changes, we were unable to make this change in order to register this name.
The device conflicts with David of Caithness, Azure, a pall inverted Or between three beavers sejant erect argent each maintaining an axe gules. There is one CD for changing the type of secondary charges and nothing for removing the maintained axes.
This does not conflict with Dan of Hamildoon, Azure, a shakefork inverted Or. There is one CD for adding the secondary charges and another for changing the type of primary charge from a shakefork to a pall inverted. While palls are not given difference from shakeforks due to the fact that they appear to be interchangeable in period (see the Cover Letter for the June 2002 LoAR for details), no evidence has been presented that a pall inverted and a shakefork inverted would have been interchangeable in period. Palls and palls inverted are different ordinaries, and what is true for one may not be true for another. Without evidence showing that palls inverted and shakeforks inverted are interchangeable in period, there is a CD between them by the general principle that an ordinary throughout has a CD from the same ordinary couped.

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