Last modified: July 22, 2004

Outlands College of Heralds

From the office of the Rampart Herald
Lady Alia Marie de Blois
rampart@outlandsheralds.org

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
June 2004 Letter of Presentation
July 2004 Letter of Response
July 2004 Letter of Intent
November 2004 LoAR Results
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Unless otherwise specified, all changes are allowed by the submitter.

The following items are sent on to Laurel for a final determination:

  1. Blaiddwyn, College of. New Badge. Gules, three wolves' teeth issuant from sinister and a trefoil argent.
  2. Blaiddwyn, College of. New Badge. Quarterly gules and argent, two open books argent.
  3. Christina McCarty. New Badge. Argent, in pale a butterfly and a quill of thread within a bordure engrailed sable.
    The LoP had a typo in the blazon - it should be "in pale" not "per pale". Also, butterflies are displayed by default, so "displayed" was dropped from the blazon.
    Additionally, as submitted, the form of the spool of thread was a modern form, but the submittor redrew immediately with a period one from Parker's A Glossary of Charges Used In Heraldry (under the header Embroiderer's quills), and it was reblazoned as a 'quill of thread' instead of a 'spool of thread'.
  4. Fína ingen Chionaith. Reconsidered Device. Gules, a cross sable fimbriated argent between in bend two needles bendwise sinister Or threaded and in bend sinister two hands appaumy argent.
    This device was originally returned by Rampart on the May Letter of Response, based on commentary about a possible conflict. Upon reconsideration, the cited conflict didn't make sense, and I am now sending this on to Laurel.
  5. Kathryn of Iveragh. Resubmitted Change of Registered Device. Per bend sinister wavy sable and gules, on a bend sinister wavy argent a ducal coronet bendwise sable and in dexter chief three passion nails inverted bendwise in bend sinister gules enflamed Or.
    Her name was registered at some point (not even the O&A knows). Her current device was registered in May 1982, and the augmentation registered in September 1983 (last reblazoned in January 1985). The particular enflaming of the passion nails is grandparented to her.She is now a duchess (May 10th, 2003) and thus entitled to the ducal coronet.This is the Outlands' standard lozenge form.
    This change was returned by Laurel on the February 2004 LOAR, for administrative reasons, particularly, that changes to an augmented device require two actions, one changing the unaugmented device, and one changing the augmented one.
    If the augmented device cannot be registered she would prefer to withdraw the change to the unaugmented one.
    If this item is registered, she would like to keep her old arms as a badge.
    If registering this would put her over her limit for armorial items, she would like to have her badge, Sable, three barrulets wavy or, overall a pellet fimbriated or, surmounted by a torteau, thereon a Norse suncross or, released.
  6. Kathryn of Iveragh. Change of Registered Augmented Device. Per bend sinister wavy sable and gules, on bend sinister wavy argent, a ducal coronet bendwise sable and in dexter chief three passion nails inverted bendwise in bend sinister gules enflamed Or, and as an augmentation an inescutcheon of azure, a demi-sun issuant from base Or within a bordure argent.
    Her name was registered at some point (not even the O&A knows). Her current device was registered in May 1982, and the augmentation registered in September 1983 (last reblazoned in January 1985). The particular enflaming of the passion nails is grandparented to her. She is now a duchess (May 10th, 2003) and thus entitled to the ducal coronet. This is the Outlands' standard lozenge form.
    If the augmented device cannot be registered she would prefer to withdraw the change to the unaugmented one.
    If this item is registered, she would like to keep her old arms as a badge.
    If registering this would put her over her limit for armorial items, she would like to have her badge, Sable, three barrulets wavy or, overall a pellet fimbriated or, surmounted by a torteau, thereon a Norse suncross or, released.
  7. Safwah al-Zarqah al-Sabbiyah. New Name and New Device. Or, a sinister gore sable and in dexter chief a cross of four lozenges vert.
    Safwah is found in "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" by Master Da'ud ibn Auda (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm) where it is listed as a feminine ism. al-Zarqa is found in the same source as a feminine cognomen meaning "the blue-eyed". al-Sabbiyah the feminine from of al-Sabi, documented currently from an email from Master Da'ud which says that is a tribal name found in Dodge "The Fihrist of al-Nadim", a 10th Century source, volume II, p 1085, in the name of:
    "Abu Ishaq Ibrahin ibn al-Sabi. "He was a secretary and poet, who became chief of the secretariat of 'Izz al-Dawlah in 960. He was a Sabi from Harran. He was arrested in 978 and died about fifteen years later."
    She cares most about the "Arabic/Tribal" language/culture.
    Submitted as Safwah al-Basimah al-Zarqah al-Sabbiyah, al-Basimah was dropped because no documentation was provided, nor could any be found for that name element in period.

The following items are returned for further work:

  1. Blaiddwyn, College of. New Badge. Argent, three wolves' teeth issuant from sinister gules.
    This is being returned for multiple conflicts, including Wilfrith Healfdene, Vairy argent and sable, three wolves' teeth issuant from sinister gules. At this time, it appears that simply swapping the teeth to issuant from dexter clears all conflicts.
  2. Liliana le Graunt. New Name and New Device. Argent, two lightning bolts in saltire sable surmounted by a heart gules, a bordure engrailed sable.
    This name is being returned for issues with the name Liliana. Basically, to document this as an Italian name in a Scottish name source, especially when undated, is stretching for documentation, especially when others have failed to find suitable documentation for this name previously. In particular, I find this quote from that source to be less than encouraging, "Lily, Gaelic Lilidh, has itsefl been used as a Christian name, esepcially when flower names were in vogue from 1880 onwards." [emphasis mine]
    The Academy of St. Gabriel articles 1859, 1550, and 1336 fairly clearly describe the similar names which are documented to this time period and describes the issues with the use of Liliana (and variants). However, as any of them seemed farther from the submitted name than even a major change, this is being returned so that the submittor can decide where to go from here.
    The device is being returned for either a redraw or as a conflict. As drawn, the lightning bolts are definitely not the primary charge - the heart is. As such, it has a conflict with Bordermarch, Barony of, Argent, a heart gules and a sinister tierce raguly sable, with only one CD for changing the tierce to a bordure. If it were redrawn so that the lightning bolts were much large and the heart much smaller, this conflict would go away (though another might possibly appear).

The following items have been pended for a name:

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
June 2004 Letter of Presentation
July 2004 Letter of Response
July 2004 Letter of Intent
November 2004 LoAR Results
Return to the Rampart home page.