Last modified: December 5, 2011


Outlands College of Heralds

December 5, 2011 From the Office of the Castle Herald
Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a
castle@outlandsheralds.org

Unto the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this 5th day of December, A.S. XLV (2011 CE), does Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a send greetings on behalf of Sheik Omar Mohammud Mirzazadeh, White Stag Principal Herald.

 

It would assist Castle Herald greatly in the future if you would e-mail a copy of the documentation summary for name submissions along with the paper copies.  It saves having to re-type everything again.  Also, please be sure that you include dates of registration and return for armory for previously registered names and resubmissions of any kind.  If Castle can't find where an item was returned, it may be pended until the information is provided or payment is made for a new submission.

 

Here follows the Kingdom of the Outlands Letter of Presentation for December 2011. Your comments and suggestions are always welcome. Errors found herein are my sole responsibility.  Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the herald's commentary list is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to Rampart Herald by January 15, 2012, for the decision meeting tentatively scheduled for January 18, 2012.  As a reminder, the College of Arms requests commentary on all items, including appeals.


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1. Alasdair Scott MacDh¨ghaill. New Name and Device. Per saltier sable and gules, in a pale a dove displayed and sword argent.

(Caer Galen) Gender: Male. Submitter will accept changes.

 

[Alasdair] - Dictionary of English Surnames Reaney and Wilson SN: MacAlaster 1455 Black Gaelic Mac Alasdair

 

[MacDh¨ghaill] - Dictionary of English Surnames Reaney and Wilson SN: MacDougal 1497 Black Gaelic MacDh¨ghaill

 

 

2. Andros Korkyrates. New Name and Device. Per bend sinister checky gules and Or and sable, in base a compass star Or.

(Caer Galen) Gender: Male. Submitter will NOT accept MAJOR or MINOR changes.

 

[Andros] - Submitter's mundane give name, baptismal certificate provided

 

[Korkyrates] - Korkya is the Latinized spelling (Greek: Κόρκυρα) of several locations in the Greek islands (specifically the island of Korčula as well as other islands and towns) that have existed under this name since the 12th century BC. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor%C4%8Dula) The modern Greek spelling is Kerkyra. The locative by name is formed by the possessive of the toponym by adding [tes]. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_nouns#Masculines_in_es) (http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/archaeology/people/shipley/pseudo-skylax)

 

 

3. Arif al-Arabi. New Name.

(Blaiddwyn) Gender Male. Submitter cares most about meaning and language and/or culture, 'Arif - mystic, Persian; al-Arabi - "the Arab", Arabic'. Submitter will accept changes and desires authenticity for language and/or culture and time period, '1100-1250, Arabic/Persian forces under the command of Saladin'.

 

[Arif] - "Persian Given Names in the NafahÔt al-uns" by Ursula Whitcher, ['┬rif] (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/nafahat/givennames.html)

 

[al-Arabi] - "Masculine Cognomens used as Isms" by David B. Appleton, [al-A'rabi] (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm)

 

 

4. Cedwyn Cwydd. New Name.

(Caer Galen) Gender: Doesn't Matter. Submitter cares most about sound and will accept changes.

 

[Cedwyn] - "Enwau Cymraeg I Blant", Welsh Names for Children, Heini Gruffudd

 

[Cwydd] - 'The Compleat Anachronist #66' "A Welsh Miscellany" by Heather Rose Jones. Submitter states 'The spelling she [Jones] gave was Chwith, meaning left-handed. I feel the current spelling in more in keeping with 9th Century Cymru.'

 

 

5. Felix Sniumi. Device Resubmission (Laurel). Per fess argent and purpure, a fox courant to sinister regardant and a bordure sable.

(Unser Hafen) Submitter's name was registered on the September 2011 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/09/11-09lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's device, Per fess argent and purpure, a fox courant to sinister regardant sable, was returned on the September 2011 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/09/11-09lar.html) stating the following:

 

This device is returned for conflict with the badge of Lorn Stark, (Fieldless) A wolf courant contourny sable. There is only one CD for fieldlessness, but nothing for the difference between a fox and a wolf.

This device is also in conflict with the badge of Malcolm Leslie the Scot, (Fieldless) A Scottish terrier statant contourny sable. There is one CD for fieldlessness, but nothing for the difference between a fox and a Scottish terrier, nor for the difference between courant and statant.

Submitter has cleared the conflicts by adding a bordure for a second CD.

 

 

6. Katarinka Korsakova. New Device. Purpure, between two oak slips argent, three foxes passant gules on a bend argent.

(al-Barran) Submitter's name, Katerinka Korsakova, was registered on the December 2010 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/12/10-12lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

 

7. Lelien Widoeghe. Device Change Resubmission (Kingdom). Per pale argent and vert, four fleurs-de-lys counterchanged.

(al-Barran)  Submitter's name was registered on the January 2009 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/loar/2009/01/09-01lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's current device, Argent, on a pile rayonny vert, a lily of the valley slipped and leaved argent, was registered on the January 2010 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/01/10-01lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's device change, Per pale vert and argent, six fleur-de-lys two, two, and two counterchanged, was returned on the August 2011 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2011-07-lop/1108-lor.html) stating the following:

 

RETURNED for conflict with Helena Sibylla, reg. 4/10 via the Middle: Per pale vert and argent all semy-de-lys counterchanged. Unless we count a CD between six and an indeterminate number (and we do not), there are no countable differences between the devices at all.

 

Submitter reduced the number of fleur-de-lys to four to help clear the stated conflict.

 

Submitter wishes to retain her current device as a badge.

 

 

8. Unser Hafen, Barony of. Badge Resubmission (Laurel). Per pale vert and Or, a chainless portcullis and a bordure counterchanged.

(Unser Hafen) Submitter's name was registered as Unser Hafen, Shire of on the October 1985 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1985/10/lar.html) via Atenveldt and updated to Unser Hafen, Barony of on the February 1991 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1991/02/lar.html) via the Outlands.

 

Submitter's badge, Vert, a portcullis within a bordure embattled Or, was returned on the June 2009 LoR (http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2009-05-lop/0906-lor.html) stating the following:

Returned for conflict: Atenveldt, Kingdom of (01/96, Atenveldt) "Vert, a portcullis Or," with one CD for adding the bordure; and with Malcolm MacLeod of Caer Adamant (05/05, East), "Sable, a portcullis and a bordure embattled Or," with one CD for changing the field tincture.

Submitter's badge, [Fieldless] A chainless portcullis vert, was pended on the April 2010 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/04/10-04lar.html) and returned on the October 2010 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2010/10/10-10lar.html) stating the following:

This badge was pended on the April 2010 LoAR for discussion of whether or not we wished to protect the symbol of Parliament.
This badge is returned for conflict with the badge of the Parliament of the United Kingdom and the Beauforts/Tudors, (Tinctureless) A portcullis (sometimes crowned). There is a CD for the lack of tincture, but no other CD. We note that, while the barony has many other vert portcullises, the conflict is not grandfathered, since each of the registered badges has at least a CD for possessing tincture and a CD for the addition of a tertiary or overall charge group.
We remind commenters that a correctly drawn portcullis does not need to include chains. A period rendition of a chainless portcullis can be found in Siebmacher, plate 136, row 3, column 4, the arms of die Hessen zu Wingdorf.

Submitter's badge, Per pale vert and or, a portcullis counterchanged, was returned on the September 2011 LoAR (http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/09/11-09lar.html) stating the following:

This badge is returned for conflict with the badge of the Parliament of the United Kingdom and the Beauforts/Tudors, (Tinctureless) A portcullis (sometimes crowned). There is a CD for the lack of tincture, but no other CD. A tinctureless badge is protected in all tinctures, including divided tinctures.

As noted in the prior return, while the barony has many other vert portcullises, the conflict is not grandfathered, since each of the registered badges has at least a CD for possessing tincture and a CD for the addition of a tertiary or overall charge group.

Submitter has added a counterchanged bordure to provide a second CD.

 

Thus ends the December 2011 Letter of Presentation.

 

In Service,

Sayyidah Khalidah bint Yahya'a 

Castle Herald

 

 

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