28 May 2005
From the Office of White Stag Principal Herald
whitestag@outlandsheralds.org
UNTO
Elisabeth de Rossingol, Laurel Queen of Arms,
Margaret MacDuibhshithe, Pelican Queen of Arms, Gwenllian ferch
Maredudd,
Wreath Queen of Arms, and the College of Arms, upon this 28th day of
May 2005,
A.S. XXXX (2005 CE), does Lady Sorcha MacLeod, White Stag Principal
Herald,
send greetings.
Unless otherwise noted, submitters accept all
changes, desire a name with the common sense gender, and have no
requests for
authenticity. Nota bene: I have a new phone number, listed above, and
already
submitted for a roster update.
1- Katrine van Deventer.
New Badge.
Per chevron ployé purpure and argent, a mullet of eight
points issuant.
Her name was registered in May 2003.
This submission is an
appeal of a return in kingdom for conflict.
The original return (May 2004 Letter of Response:
http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2004-04-lop/0405-lor.html)
reads:
This device is being
returned for conflict with Katya Anna Sylvan, Per chevron
throughout
purpure and argent, two compass stars argent and a fox sejant gules,
with
only one CD for the change in number of the primary charge group (1 vs
3), and
Rivenstar, Barony of, Azure, a riven star argent, with only
one CD for
changing the field (azure vs per chevron purpure and argent).
The appeal, written by Lord Pendar the Bard,
reads:
The device of Pendar the
Bard, registered in December 2002, which was used as a basis for this
badge is:
Per chevron ployé Or and azure, a demi-fleur-de-lys issuant
from the line of
division azure.
http://www.wombatinfestation.org/rampart/2002-06-lop/pendar2.gif
If the same logic that was applied to Katrine's
return
was applied to Pendar’s, then it would have been returned for conflict
with
Elwyn of Snow Hill (8/79): Per chevron azure, ermined argent, and
argent, in
base a fleur-de-lis azure. With only 1 CD for changes to the field
(since
the move to base of the fleur in Elwyn's device is forced). We'd like
to see a
White Stag notes that applying the same logic
to
Pendar's device vs. Elwyn's, there is a CD for changes to the field,
and there
should be another for the difference between a fleur-de-lys and a
demi-fleur-de-lys:
[a jester's cap vs. a jester's hood] [There
is a CD]
for the difference between a jester's cap and a jester's hood; the
latter has
the fabric which would normally extend down over the shoulders and well
onto
the chest, with large dags, and a hole in the front for the face to
show
through. It was the consensus of those
at the
While some may argue that
there is no such difference between the two based on the return of
Elspeth
Fitzwilliam's device on the Dec99 LoAR, the return indicates that it
was the
manner in which the fleurs were drawn that brought in the conflict, and
not the
actual difference between fleurs and demi-fleurs:
This also conflicts with Alienor Beatrice
Lucrezia
(SCA) Azure, four fleurs-de-lys in cross bases to center argent., with
one CD for
arrangement, but nothing for the difference between the demi
fleurs-de-lys and
the complete fleurs-de-lys as drawn.
2- Lyonnete la Rousse. New
Badge.
Azure, a chimera statant to sinister Or within a bordure lozengy
sable and
argent.
Name registered Jun02 via the West.
3- Murchadh Mac Diarmada. Withdraw
Device. Per
pale Or and sable, a cross formy throughout counterchanged. The
submitter
wishes to withdraw this device, originally appearing on the Outlands
March 2005
Letter of Intent.
4- Murchadh MacDiarmada. Device
Resubmission.
Per pale sable and Or, a cross formy throughout counterchanged.
This name appeared on the Outlands March 2005
Letter
of Intent, along with the device in number 3 above, now withdrawn. The
submitter has obtained a Letter of Permission to Conflict from Dafydd
Morrison Per
pale sable and Or, a cross of
5- Rab Wylkyn. New Name.
Rab is
found in Withycombe, pg 254 under Robert as an
undated nickname in
6- Sile O' Daragh. New Name.
Sile is found in OC&M, pg 165. Gaelic
form of
Caecilia brought into
If the name must be changed, submitter cares
more
about the language/culture. The desired gender of the name is
feminine.
Thus ends my Letter of Intent.
I count 2 new names, and 2 new badges, for a
total of 4 items requiring payment to
In service and duty,
Sorcha, White Stag