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Outlands College of Heralds

18 March 2005
From the Office of the White Stag Principal Herald
Lady Sorcha MacLeod
whitestag@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the Outlands College of Heralds, our respected friends and colleagues who give freely of their time to provide commentary, and all others who come by these letters, on this Letter of Presentation, on the 18th day of March, A.S.XXXIX (2005 CE), does Lady Sorcha MacLeod, White Stag Herald send greetings.

Anyone may comment upon the items found herein, and e-mail commentary to the above address is encouraged. Please have comments on items contained herein to me by 9 April, 2005, for the White Stag decision meeting scheduled for 10 April. My deepest apologies that there will be less than a March to comment - I have recently accepted full-time employment, and there have been transitional issues.

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I present the following items for your consideration:

1- Ailinn Shadowfox. New Badge. (Fieldless) A fox's mask sable.
(Hawks Hollow)

Originally blazoned as A fox mask sable, the blazon has been corrected for grammar and SCA convention.

2- Angus Reid MacFarlane. New Name.
(Fontaine)

Angus is found in Black, Surnames under the header Angus, "Angus, son of Somerled, c. 1150." Reid is the submitter's legal given name - a copy of his driver's license is enclosed. Macfarlane is found in Reaney and Wilson as an undated variant under the header MacFarlan. The exact desired spelling is not found, but this should be a reasonable variant spelling considering these two header forms. The only dated spelling is Mcpharlane (c1385). Submitter accepts all changes, cares most about sound, desires a masculine name, and has no authenticity requests.

3- Astriðr Hálfdanardóttir. Name Resubmission(K) and Device Resubmission(K). Per pale sable and gules, domestic cat rampant guardant, in chief two Norse sun crosses Or.
(Drygestan)

Astriðr is found as a feminine given name in Geirr Bassi, pg. 8. Hálfdan is found as a masculine given name on pg. 11 of Geirr Bassi, and is one of the exemplar names used in the discussion of the creation of patronymics/matronymics on pg. 17, which lists Hálfdanardóttir as the form for Hálfdan's daughter.

The original name was returned for several reasons, and they are listed in the December 2004 Letter of Response at: http://rampart.outlandsheralds.org/2004-11-lop/0412-lor.html. The original device Sable, a domestic cat rampant guardant Or maintaining in its dexter paw a Norse Sun Cross, a bordure embattled argent was also returned in Dec 2004 for multiple conflicts. Changing the sun cross from one maintained charge to two secondary charges clears all original conflicts.

Submitter will not accept major changes, cares most about unspecified language/culture, desires a feminine name, and is interested in authenticity for 11-12th C. time period.

4- Bjorn inn gauzki.

This item has been moved to an LoI, coming soon. No need to comment.

5- Bloodstone Keep, Canton of. New Branch Name and New Branch Device. Gules, a gryphon segreant argent, in base a laurel wreath Or.
(Bloodstone Keep/Caerthe)

[Gracious commenters - any support you can give this name would be gratefully received.] A petition for both name and device is included. Keep is an SCA compatible branch name element:

Keep has long been used as part of SCA branch names. The most recent registration is Crossrode Keep, Shire of (registered November 1999 via Ansteorra). This element is effectively regarded as SCA compatible as an element in an English place name. Given the forms in which it has been registered, spellings of the element Keep are registerable both as a separate element (such as Crossrode Keep), and as the final element in a compound place name (such as Northkeep). [Tristan Ravencrest, A-Æthelmearc, 11/2001] [Michael of Ravenskeep, A-Outlands, 07/2002]

Bloodstone is not well supported by the provided documentation. There is a Bloodstone Hill listed under a header of the same (Bloodstone Hill, Rum Island, Inverness-shire; 1273 ft.) in the Gazetteer of the British Isles published by John Bartholomew& Son, Ltd., Edinburgh, but it is undated. The documentation includes two citations from a genealogical site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100200106547&lds=1&region=… They are for "Mr. Bloodstone" and "Mrs. Bloodstone," indicate an approximate birth of 1585 and a marriage in 1600, all in Leacroft, Cannock, Stafford, England, and the citations indicate "No additional information is available." Genealogy sites are not suitable for SCA documentation, since their purposes are not ours - frequently spellings are modernized, for one example of why we cannot rely on genealogy sources for documentation. Additional citations are provided from a variety of sources, most of them intended to draw parallels between various color+stone, or thing+stone names, the closest of which are from R&W, Blundstone: Robert de Blundeston 1327 SRSf; Nicholas Bluneston 1593 FFHu. The canton will not accept major changes, and has no preferences or requests for authenticity.

6- Elisant le Chevaler. Device Resubmission(K). Purpure, a horse rampant and on a chief nebuly argent three trefoils sable.
(Caerthe)

The original submission, Purpure, a horse rampant and on a chief embattled argent, three orchids sable, was returned for lack of reproducibility (orchids) and for conflict with Luzia do Valongo, Purpure, a horse salient and a chief embattled argent. The trefoils address the reproducibility issue. There is also a CD between nebuly and embattled, so this redesign answers the issues. " The line of division on the chief appears halfway between nebuly and dovetailed/embattled, between which there is a CD…" [Elysant atten Oke, R-West, Aug04]

7- Emma Yate. New Name and Device. Azure, a horse's head couped Or, maned argent.
(Gleann Medonach)

Emma (header Emma)is dated to 1186 in Withycombe. Yate (header Yate) is dated to 1260 in Reaney and Wilson. Submitter accepts all changes, cares most about an unspecified language/culture, desires a feminine name, has no request for authenticity, and permits the creation of a holding name.

8- Gabriella de L'orme. New Name and Device. Quarterly purpure and argent, eight roses in annulo counterchanged barbed and seeded vert.
(Caerthe)

Gabriella is justified by the presence of the masculine "Gabriel" in an article regarding the crew of Le Cristophe in 1535, found at: http://www.geocities.com/~carignan/E15Christophe.html and linked from S. Gabriel's French name article list. Required photocopies were not included. The element de L'orme is found as Delorme and del'orme in Morlet, undated, but the entry says "n. très fréquent, var. région," which I take to mean "very frequent, in various regions."

Originally blazoned Quarterly purpure and argent, eight roses in annulo counterchanged slipped and leaved vert, the roses are not slipped and leaved, but barbed and seeded.

9- Helga Tynker. Device Resubmission. Argent, a cauldron sable and on a chief gules five hearts argent.
(Drygestan)

Originally blazoned Argent, a cauldron sable, on a bordure gules, five hearts argent, the emblazon depicts a chief, and the blazon has been corrected to reflect that. The original submission, Vert, a cauldron Or and on a chief argent five hearts gules, was returned Aug 2004 for conflict with Angharad Glas Vert, a cauldron Or, on a chief argent, three penannular brooches inverted gules, and the redesign addresses the issue.

10- Igrainne of Gwynedd. New Name and Device. Per fess embattled sable and Or masoned sable, a sword gules between in chief two goblets Or.
(Gleann Medonach)

Igrainne was not found in the sources at herald's point (Estrella), and is listed as "Cornish." No precedent stating that it is SCA-compatible (though it has been registered more than once) was immediately found, so any help on this name is appreciated. Gwynedd is found in Morgan & Morgan Welsh Surnames under the header Gwynedd on p. 118, dated to 1614. Submitter accepts all changes, cares most about the sound, desires a feminine name, has no authenticity request, and permits the creation of a holding name.

11- Kovach Bol'shoi. Device Resubmission (L). Per pale gules and sable, two dragons combatant Or and in base a lotus blossom in profile argent.
(al-Barran)

The blazon has been changed to add the phrase "in profile." The original submission, Or, a tree eradicated proper between in two dragons combattant, that to dexter sable and that to sinister gules, was listed as withdrawn by the submitter on the May 1998 LoAR.

12- Laisairiona Seanchaidhe. New Name and Device. Argent, three Lacy knots sable.
(Fontaine)

Laisairiona is found in O'C&M Irish Names p. 121. Seanchaidhe is found in MacLysaght Surnames of Ireland p. 268 (header MacShanaghy). The consulting herald requests a check of the lenition. Submitter will not accept major changes, but makes no other limitations.

13- Melangell Dwn. New Name and Device. Per chevron argent and Or, two gouttes gules and a decrescent azure.
(S. Golias)

Melangell is dated to 570 in Colm Dubh's "An Index to Bartram…," KWHS, Meridies, AS XXXI (June 1996) as a feminine given name. The balance of the title would be appreciated. Dwn is cited as a "byname of coloring" from p. 32 of CA#66 "A Welsh Miscellany" by Heather Rose Jones, and means "dark." Submitter will not allow major changes, but makes no other limitations.

14- Nicolina of Cornwall. New Name.
(Gleann Medonach)

Nicolina is found in de Felice Nomi, p. 177, header Nicola. I am unable to make out the Italian well enough to know how much of it to quote, and the passage is quite long. The documentation summary says, "Cornwall - ancient Duchy in England." No documentation is attached. English and Italian are a weirdness, "… An Italian-English name combination is a weirdness (barring evidence of such combinations in period) but acceptable…" [Veronica de Holloway, A-Artemisia, Sep99] Submitter accepts all changes, cares most about the sound, and desires a feminine name.

15- Serena da Vinci. New Name.
(Gleann Medonach)

The documentation summary lists, "Serena - de Felice Nomi, p. 330. da - common Italian preposition. Vinci - de Felice Cognomi, p. 262." Serena appears to be undated, as does Vinci, though I suspect there should be no trouble with da Vinci.

 

Thus ends the March 2005 Letter of Presentation.

In service and duty,

Sorcha, White Stag

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