Last modified: July 8, 2004


Outlands College of Heralds

From the office of the Rampart Herald
Lady Alia Marie de Blois
rampart@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the members of the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, and all others who generously give of their time and talents in commentary on this Letter of Presentation, upon this 13th day of March, A.S. XXXVIII (2004 CE), does Lady Alia Marie de Blois, Rampart Herald, send greetings and those commendations which are appropriately due.

Anyone who wants to may send me a letter of comment regarding this Letter of Presentation. I prefer them via email.
Please send commentary to: alia 'at' swcp.com or the address above.
Please have your commentary on this letter to me by mid April - the Rampart decision meeting is scheduled for the second Thursday of April.

This month, we have quite a few submissions from the Estrella War Consultation Table. To those who helped out at the Table (while my brain was mush with a headcold), especially Jeanne-Marie Crescent who let us use Caidan foms because I had none, my sincere thanks and deep appreciation. [If you sent in submissions after the first weekend in March, they probably didn't make it in here - I already had an awful lot of submissions, had the LoP done except the proofreading, and the shorter commentary period does make the release date of the LoP more pressing. Sorry. They'll be in April's LoP.]

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On behalf of Mistress Tatiana Pavlovna Sokolova, White Stag Principal Herald, I present the following items for your consideration:

(Unless otherwise noted, all submittors will accept all changes, have no authenticity requests, and wish a name with the "common sense" gender, based on the submitted name.)

  1. Adriana Maria Presley. (Caerthe) Resubmitted Device (Laurel). Sable, on a rose Or seeded and barbed vert, a dragon salient sable armed and langued gules.
    Her name was registered in December 1986 via Trimaris. Her original device submission, Sable, in pale and a chevronel between in chief three escallops and in base a frog sejant to sinister argent, was returned at that time.
  2. Berold Blackwolf de Gilbert. (Citadel) Change of Name to Berold de Gilbert.
    His name was registered in April 1988 via the Outlands. He requests that "Blackwolf" be dropped from his name.
    If this name is registered, he wishes the default action - the old name to be released.
  3. Caer Galen, Barony of. (Caer Galen) Resubmitted Heraldic Title (Rampart). Rayon de Soleil Pursuivant.
    The barony's name was registered in May of 1980. This heraldic title is for use of the baronial herald. Their previous Heraldic Title submission, Rayonny Pursuivant, was returned by Rampart on the January 2004 Letter of Response for not matching the known patterns for heraldic titles (as listed in the Rules for Submissions, section III.2.b.iii.). This heraldic title is intended to follow the pattern of heraldic charges as heraldic titles, with the meaning "ray of the sun". It is probably worth noting that in Parker's Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry, on page 490, under the header "Ray", it says that "a ray of the sun is found in one or two cases in early rolls, and in each case is blazoned gules", and mentions the arms of Sire Fraunceys de Aldam as "d'aszure a un ray de soleil d'or", on a roll contemporary to Edward II.
  4. Catherine Beaujen. (??) New Device. Per bend sinister azure and argent, on a cross fleury counterchanged, a bezant.
    Her name was registered in January 2001 via the Outlands.
  5. Damia al-Andalusiyya. (Citadel) New Name and New Device. Gules, a Latin cross clechy and a bordure rayonny Or.
    Damia is found in Uppity Women of Medieval Times by Vicki Leon on page 48 in the section on Damia al-Kahina, which both gives the spellings Damia, Dhabba, and Dahiya and pins it down to a date of 694. Anyone have a backup resource? al-Andalusiyya is a locative byname meaning "woman from Andalus", as found in "Andalusian Names: Arabs in Spain" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/andalusia/)
  6. Diana Doria. New Name.
    Diana is found in de Felice's Nomi, on page 127 under the header Diana, listed as a classical and mythological name. Doira is listed in de Felice's Cognomi, on page 116 under the header Doria, possibly a locative and apparently used in Genova about 1100.
    I am slightly concerned with the similarity to her legal name, Dianne Doria, although the consulting herald at Estrella (an experienced herald) apparently didn't find it a problem. Opinions requested.
    She cares most about "keeping Doria intact as spelled".
  7. Elissent of Silverleaf. New Name and New Device. Vert, an oak tree winged and in chief three mullets of four points argent.
    Elissent is found in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyAG.html) under the header Elisant. The submittor says (via email) that the byname is a locative, based on "A Brief Introduction to Medieval Bynames" by Talan Gwynekand Arval Benicoeur (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/bynames/), "...as well as the advisings of the herald at Estrella." Unfortunately, there is no note on her form mentioning the consulting herald, or what that herald advised her. There is an Elizabeth Tremayne Silverleaf in the O&A, but that's not sufficient as documentation (especially with a registration date of 1982). Anyone have documentation for this as a period surname?
    She will not allow any changes at all and cares most about the sound.
  8. Faelan mac Cian. (Duthaich Beinne Aird) New Name.
    Both Faelan and Cian are found in the "Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/). Faelan (Masculine/Faelan.shtml) is dated as a masculine given name to Old Irish 700-900 and Middle Irish Gaelic 900-1200. Cian (Masculine/Cian.shtml) is dated as a masculine given name to Middle Irish Gaelic 900-1200, and no genitive case for the name is given. The standard form for a simple patronymic byname in Gaelic is given as <single given name> mac < father's given name (in genitive case & sometimes lenited)> per "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" 3rd Ed. by Sharon L. Krossa (http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/) in the section on simple patronymic bynames (#simplepatronymicbyname) which also states, "...even in dialects that did normally lenite the father's given name, they did not do so if it started with the letter < C> or a vowel."
    Submitter accepts all changes, cares most about (unspecified) language/culture, and desires a masculine name.
  9. Harold the Elder. (Caerthe) New Name and New Device. Or, a bend sinister cotised gules between a bear's head erased and a lymphad sable, sails furled, flying pennants gules.
    Harold is found as a header form in Withycombe's Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, on page 146, dated to 1086. Elder is found in Reaney and Wilson's A Dictionary of English Surnames, on page 152, in the form Ricardus ye Elder. The addition of "the" clears this of the client's use name Harold Elder (Harold being his legal middle name).
    He cares most about the unspecified language/culture.
    For the device, given the depiction, this is either "a bend sinister cotised" or "three bendlets sinister". I'm guessing the first, but if so, it's a kind of wimpy bend sinister. I suspect this is a particular type of ship... anyone know?
  10. Marina of Bluelake. (Citadel) Resubmitted Change of Name to Amani bint Jamal ibn Diya' al-Sadig (Laurel).
    Her primary name was registered in June 1993 via Caid. Her previous name change submission Amani bint Jamal ibn Diya' al Din al-Sadig, was returned by Laurel in October 2001 for use of "al Din" which is a claim to rank (and she did not allow major changes, for it to be dropped). This resubmission addresses this issue by dropping "al Din".
    This form was marked with the Action Type of "Appeal", but this is not an appeal (since it is not appealing with the identical name). The form also says "Request for Reconsideration", but one can only request reconsideration of a submission which is registered (see the Cover Letter for the January 2003 LOAR). That makes this a resubmission. No documentation was provided with this set of forms, but fortunately the previous forms were in the files. Those forms documented this name from the "Digest of Muslim Names: Beautiful Muslim Names and Their Meaning" by Al Ja'fari,Fatimah Suzanne. With the following names and meanings: Amani, wishes/aspirations; al-Sedig, sincere/truthful; Jamal, beauty; and Diya' al Din, Light of the faith.
    I have significant reservations about the quality of this documentation (especially since there are no photocopies in the file!).
    She will allow all changes, and has no other requests. If this name is registered, she wishes to retain her current name as an alternate name.
  11. Mærwynn of Holme. (Caer Galen) New Name and New Device. Or, three hunting horns without strings conjoined in triskele gules between three torteau.
    Mærwynn is apparently found in Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum by William George Seale, but it wasn't on hand at the time, so the page and header are currently unknown. It is also found in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, which apparently says "There was an abbess of Rosey Mærwynn in 975. it also appears Latinized as Merewenne and Merwenna in 10th century charters". Merewenne and Merwenna are also found in "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters" by Marieke van de Dal (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/marieke/anglosaxonfem/) under the header Mer(e)wyn. Holme is found in Reaney & Wilson's A Dictionary of English Surnames, on page 236 under the header Holm. Roger de Holm is dated to 1186, and John atte Holme to 1296.
    She cares most about the language/culture, and is interested in authenticity for "10th-11th C. Anglo-Saxon" time period and language/culture, and notes that she would prefer 'of Holme' to 'atte Holme'.
  12. Mærwynn of Holme. (Caer Galen) New Badge. Gules, three hunting horns without strings conjoined in triskele Or between three bezants.
    Her name is submitted on this Letter. (Note, this is the color inverse of her device. Perfectly legal, fyi.)
  13. Mór inghean Chathail. (Caerthe) Device Change. Or, in pale two tygers passant contourny queue-forchy purpure.
    Her name was registered August 2002, and her device was registered in September 2002. If this change of device is registered, she wishes to retain the old device as a badge.
  14. Seuilla de Córdoba. (Caerthe) New Device. Per pale gules and sable, two owls respectant reguardant argent and a sun Or.
    Her name was registered in August of 2003. These charges are in a two-and-one arrangement, which should be the default.
  15. Thomas Eisenmann. (al-Barran) Resubmitted Name (Rampart) and Unpended Device. Per pale gules and sable, a lion dormant argent and three mullets of seven points Or.
    His previous name submission, Thomas the Teuton was returned by kingdom in August 1998. His device was pended at that time - now that there is a name, it is being unpended. Both parts of this name are found in German Names by Bahlow (Edda Gentry translation). Thomas is found on page 506 as a header form, and Eisenmann is found on page 100, also as a header form.
    He cares most about the "14th Century German" language/culture. (Yes, that's the "care about", not a request for authenticity.)
  16. Tristan de Gilbert. (Citadel) New Name and New Device.Argent, a palm tree couped sable and two vols, on a point pointed fleury gules a vol argent.
    Tristan is found in Withycombe under Tristram on page 282, with this spelling from the early French romances (but not specifically dated). de Gilbert is from.... ?
    He has letters of permission to conflict from Berold Blackwolf de Gilbert (Argent, a palm tree couped sable and in base between two Latin crosses fourchy, on a point entee fleury gules, a Latin cross fourchy argent.) and Roger de Gilbert (Argent, a palm tree couped sable and two roses proper one and two, on a point pointed fleury gules a rose argent barbed and seeded proper.).
  17. Wilhelm Altmann. Resubmitted Device (Kingdom). Vert, in pale a crab Or and a sword bendwise ermine.
    His name was registered in October 1999 via the Outlands. His previous device submission, Azure, a ship Or, sail set argent and charged with a sinister hand apalmy gules, was returned by Rampart in June of 2000 for presumption (the sinister hand apalmy gules is also known as the Red Hand of Ulster, is a symbol of the English Baronets, and is thus a restricted charge in the SCA. Obviously, this is a complete reworking.

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
March 2004 Letter of Presentation
April 2004 Letter of Response
April 2004 Letterof Intent
August 2004 LoAR Results
Return to the Rampart home page.

Anyone who wants to may send me a letter of comment regarding this Letter of Presentation. I prefer them via email.
Please send commentary to: alia 'at' swcp.com or the address above.
Please have your commentary on this letter to me by mid April.