Last modified: July 8, 2004


Outlands College of Heralds

From the office of the Rampart Herald
Lady Alia Marie de Blois
rampart@outlandsheralds.org

UNTO the members of the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, and all others who generously give of their time and talents in commentary on this Letter of Presentation, upon this 17th day of February, A.S. XXXVIII (2004 CE), does Lady Alia Marie de Blois, Rampart Herald, send greetings and those commendations which are appropriately due. My apologies for the delay in producing this letter - between illness and Estrella, it's taken longer than I intended.

Anyone who wants to may send me a letter of comment regarding this Letter of Presentation. I prefer them via email.
Please send commentary to: alia 'at' swcp.com or the address above.
Please have your commentary on this letter to me by mid March - the Rampart decision meeting is scheduled for the second Thursday of March.

For those newer heralds who are interested in learning to do commentary, I've put in a few notes/requests to indicate directions to take with research and commentary. Mostly, these are the types of questions that I'll have to answer when I make decisions. Just present your research in a clear way, including citations (URLs, book titles/dates/authors/pages, quotes, rules, prior Laurel precedent), so that I know what you're talking about. For conflict checking, it really helps to cite which rules apply, or if there are any particular precedents.

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
February 2004 Letter of Presentation
March 2004 Letter of Response
March 2004 Letterof Intent
July 2004 LoAR Results
Return to the Rampart home page.

On behalf of Mistress Tatiana Pavlovna Sokolova, White Stag Principal Herald, I present the following items for your consideration:

(Unless otherwise noted, all submittors will accept all changes, have no authenticity requests, and wish a name with the "common sense" gender, based on the submitted name.)

  1. Diana of Llanberis. (al-Barran) New Device. Purpure, a tower within an orle of hearts argent.
    Her name was registered in January 2001 via the Outlands.
  2. Iames of Mann. (Unser Hafen) New Device. Sable, a bend sinister betressed Or between an abacus and a rocket argent.
    His name was registered in January 2001 via the Outlands.
  3. Iames of Mann. (Unser Hafen) New Badge. Sable, in pale a crescent pendant and a rocket argent, a bordure Or.
    His name was registered in January 2001 via the Outlands. I am somewhat concerned about the rather flattened crescent pendant.
  4. Kirka Bjornsdottir. (Unser Hafen) New Name.
    Kirka is documented as a male name dated to the 15th Century from Paul Wickenden of Thanet's A Dictionary of Period Russian Names (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/paul/ka.html). There is also a note in the documentation field saying "Pendar the Bard", but nothing about the byname (though it's probably in Geirr Bassi's The Old Norse Name). Documentation for Kirka (or a close variation) closer to her desired culture/time would be a good thing, too.
    She cares most about the language/culture, does not care about gender, and is interested in authenticity for "9th century Norse" language/culture.
  5. Mawadda bint Suleyman bint Karima. (al-Barran) Resubmitted Name and Resubmitted Device. Sable, a mullet of four points, a bordure potenty argent.
    Her previous name submission, Suleymahn L'Hilt, and previous device submission, Sable, an owl and in chief a mullet of four points, a bordure potenty argent, were returned by Rampart in September of 2003, the name for insufficient documentation of the byname and the device for lack of a name.
    According to the form, "Names from the Geniza of Cairo" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/geniza.html) was used to document this name, however that only lists feminine names. A look at Da'ud's article "Period Arabic Names and Naming Practices" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming2.htm) might provide documentation for the remainder of the name.
    She cares most about the sound, does not care about gender, and is interested in a name authentic for "Arabic" language/culture.
  6. Mephiboseth ben Yoseph. (Unser Hafen) New Name and New Device. Azure, a bend Or between a star of David argent and a candle enflamed proper, a bordure Or.
    According to the form, Mephiboseth is found in 2 Samuel 4-4 and ben Yoseph means "son of Joseph". There's been several articles on Jewish names posted to the Medieval Names Archive recently - they might be a good source of further documentation, if someone wants to look.
    He cares most about the language/culture, and is interested in authenticity for "1st Century Hebrew" time period and langauge/culture.
  7. Nikolaus von Stahlburg. (Citadel) Reconsidered Name and Unpended Device. Per chevron throughout vert and sable, a chevron throughout between three rams heads affronty cabossed argent horned Or.
    This name was previously returned through Rampart oversight. Listed on the March 2003 LoP as Nikolaus von Stahburg, I was lacking the 'l' in Stahlburg. Bad Rampart, no donut. Thus I could find no documentation, and returned the name. The device was pended at that time, and is now unpended.
    Nikolaus: This name is found in A Dictionary of German Names by Bahlow (translation by Edda Gentry, second edition) on page 346, under the heading Nick(el), which says "Saint Nikolaus was the patron saint of mariners and ship captains, seafaring merchants, and children (saint's day Dec. 6!); next to Johann(es) and Petrus, N. was the most req. f.n. in the Middle Ages. This spelling is also found in http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/germmasc.html "Late Period German Masculine Given Names" by Talan Gwynek, with 615 instances between 1501 and 1550.
    von Stahlburg: Stahlburg is the name of an SCA shire, registered in August 1995 via the West. The submittor believes that Stahlburg is a city in Germany, but I was unable to find it in my standard sources (Bahlow). "Stahl", however, appears to mean "steel", so Stahlburg would be "steel city" - which might not be a likely city name until the Industrial Revolution. So, it's entirely possible that a) it's a modern German city that didn't exist in period or b) a modern German city that existed in period, but with a different name or even c) just not in my resources. Better documentation would be appreciated.
    The client prefers a male name, authentic for unspecified language/culture, and will not allow any changes, nor the creation of a holding name.
  8. Slaine inghean Ui Sheanain. (al-Barran) New Device. Per chevron inverted argent and sable, in chief an thistle vert.
    Her name was registered in September 2002 via Caid. This is a bit steep of a per chevron inverted, but since it issues from the corners of the eschutcheon, I don't think we can call it a pile. Opinions are requested on the blazon. Also, since I can probably get a quick redraw (but don't know which way), I'd appreciate conflict checks on both "Per chevron inverted..." and "Sable, on a pile argent...".

Line Emblazon Sheet
Color Emblazon Sheet
February 2004 Letter of Presentation
March 2004 Letter of Response
March 2004 Letter of Intent
July 2004 LoAR Results
Return to the Rampart home page.

Anyone who wants to may send me a letter of comment regarding this Letter of Presentation. I prefer them via email.
Please send commentary to: alia 'at' swcp.com or the address above.
Please have your commentary on this letter to me by mid March.