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Outlands College of Heralds

From the office of the Rampart Herald
Lady Alia Marie de Blois (Lillith Lesanges)
1223 Fruit St. NW, Albuquerque, NM 87102
alia@swcp.com - (505) 244-9525

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UNTO François la Flamme, Laurel King of Arms, Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, Pelican Queen of Arms, Zenobia Naphtali, Wreath Queen of Arms, Daniel de Lincoln, Laurel clerk, and the College of Arms upon this 27th day of October, A.S. XXXVIII (2003 CE), does Lady Alia Marie de Blois, Rampart Herald, send greetings.

On behalf of Mistress Tatiana Pavlovna Sokolova, White Stag Principal Herald, I offer the following submissions for registration. Unless marked otherwise, all submittors will accept all changes and have no authenticity requests.

  1. Adam Stedefast. Device Resubmission. Per chevron azure and sable, a phoenix Or rising from flames proper issuant from the line of division and a rose argent.
    His name was registered in July of 2000. His previous device submission, with identical blazon, was returned by Laurel in July of 2000 for having the flames along the entire line of division, giving the impression of having the line of division fimbriated of flame. At that time, Laurel also noted that the per chevron line was very low on the field. This submission is redrawn to address those issues. The flames are clearly drawn to be only directly under the phoenix. Also, this device is divided approximately at the same level as those on the September LoI, for the same reason - two charges in pale with a per chevron division.
  2. Brighid Óg inghean Neill. New Name and New Device. Azure, a chevron inverted argent between three Luther roses Or, centered gules with a cross sable, barbed vert.
    Brighid is found in Irish Names by O'Corrain & Maguire, on page 36 under the header Brigit. Óg is found in the "Index of Names in Irish Annals" in the section on Descriptive Bynames (http://www.st-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/feminine/DescriptiveBynames.html) by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, meaning "young" or "virginal". Neill is in the Surnames of Ireland by MacLysaght on page 234.
    She cares most about the sound, doesn't care about the gender, and has no authenticity requests.
    The Luther rose is found on page 49 of von Volborth's Heraldry: Customs, Rules, and Styles, which says "in 1530 Martin Luther stayed in Coburg and Prince John Frederick had a signet ring made for him engraved with this rose, which Luther called the badge of his theology." In the book, the hatchings indicate that it is a white rose, "seeded" with a red heart charged with a black cross, and with green leaves. While this technically violates both the layer limit and the rule of tincture, as this charge was known in period, I would suggest that it be registrable as such. Internal commentary also mentioned that a modern version has the petals red, heart blue, cross white or petals red, heart white, cross blue/black.
  3. Darius Tigres Jaxarticus. Change of Registered Name and Change of Registered Device. Per pale sable and argent, a pale counter-compony sable and argent fimbriated in sinister chief a bull's head cabossed gules, maintaining from the dexter horn a coronet sable.
    His current name, Darius of Jaxartes, was registered in March 1993. His currently registered device (identical except for the coronet) was registered in May 1998. Darius is already registered to the submittor. Tigres is Latin for "tiger", to form an animal cognomen, based on http://www.comcast.net/~rthamper/html/body_romannaming.htm which says that some cognomens were based on animals or plants. Jaxarticus is a cognomina/agnomina based on the river Jaxartes (as found at http://www.art-arena.com/achaem.html), and formed based on http://www.comcast.net/~rthamper/html/body_romannaming.htm and http://78.1911encyclopedia.org/B/BR/BRITANNICUS.htm which describes how Britannicus (so named for the conquest of Britain) was born Claudius Tiberius Germanicus (for similar reasons, in Germany). Similar information is also at http://www.legionxxiv.org/nomens/ in the section on Cognomens.
    He cares most about the language/culture and has no authenticity requests. He is now a count (May 10th, 2003) and thus entitled to the coronet. If this device is not acceptable with the coronet so jauntily placed, he is ameniable to having the bull's head more properly crowned (as shown on the emblazon sheets).
  4. Gweneth Sastre. New Name and New Device. Argent, three ladybugs gules marked sable within an orle of ivy vert.
    Gweneth is a variant of Gwineth (which is dated to 1577 in Welsh Surnames by Morgan & Morgan) previously accepted by Laurel on the June 1999 LOAR. Laurel has also previously accepted the variant Gwyneth (August 2000 LOAR). The byname Sastre is listed three times in the Catalogo Del Archivo De La Inquisicion De Cuenca as Luis Sastre (1491), Francisco Sastre (1515), and Diego Sastre (1515). Also, (while prior registration is no guarantee of future registrability) Sastre was documented as a word (though not as an occupational byname) for the March 2002 LOAR by Clarion: "Interestingly enough, while the Catalogo does not give Sastre as a byname, but does include it as a word (i.e., "Francisco Martinez, sastre"). Given the use of occupational bynames listed in the LoI (and Diez Melcon has a whole section of them on pp. 258-262), Sastre should be registerable ..." In correspondence, Clarion confirmed that the "Catalogo" referenced is the Catálogo de Pasajeros a Indias Durante los Siglos XVI, XVII, y XVIII (Sevilla: Imprenta de la Gavidia, 1946), vol III, which she used in her article "16th Century Spanish Names" (by Elsbeth Ann Roth, http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~kvs/heraldry/spanish16/)
    She cares most about the sound and has no authenticity requests.
    Submitted as Gwenyth Sastre (a proposed variant of Gwineth), internal commentary could not support the e/y change for the second vowel in Gwenyth from Gwineth, so it was changed to the closest variation.
  5. Kathryn of Iveragh. Change of Registered Device. Per bend sinister wavy sable and gules, a bend sinister wavy argent charged with a ducal coronet bendwise sable between three passion nails inverted bendwise in bend sinister gules enflamed Or and as an augmentation an inescutcheon of azure, a demi-sun issuant from base Or within a bordure argent.
    Her name was registered at some point (not even the O&A knows). Her current device was registered in May 1982, and the augmentation registered in September 1983 (last reblazoned in January 1985). The particular enflaming of the passion nails is grandparented to her. She is now a duchess (May 10th, 2003) and thus entitled to the ducal coronet. This is the Outlands' standard lozenge form.
  6. Kathws Rusa. Device Resubmission. Azure, a scimitar inverted proper issuant from a trimount vert.
    Her name was registered in October 2001. Her previous device submission was returned by Laurel in November 2002 for using a vert trimount on an azure field but not being close enough in style and simplicity to the documented examples. The submittor has significantly simplified the device to resolve the issue. Copies of "Materials in Support of the Case for the Trimount", which is frequently used to document this low-contrast trimount and which contains many examples of low-contrast trimounts (including green on blue) and items issuant from such a trimount, were included with this resubmission.
  7. Wolfgang Grothe zu Verron. Name Resubmission and Device Resubmission. Sable, a mullet of eight points between two scarpes Or.
    The original name, Verron Wolfgang von Groth, was returned by Laurel in June of 1989. Wolfgang is documented from “Late Period German Masculine Given Names” by Talan Gwynek, which lists Wolf(gang) as having been one of the most frequent men’s names from 1501-1550. Grothe is documented from Brechenmacher’s “Etmologisches Wuutterbuch der Deutschen Familienneman” under the header Grot(h)e, Grodt, Grohte, dated to 1375.
    Verron is a variant form of Véron, which is modernly a city, town, or perhaps region in the Loire Valley of France. Also, according to the prior return, Laurel noted '"Verron" as an acceptable variant form of a geographical name, which has now been done'. I have no idea what that documentation was and can only hope that someone in the College remembers (and that it is still acceptable documentation). Additionally, "Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/bordeaux.html) by Aryanhwy merch Catmael lists a "Meric Veron". Finally, both Morlet (Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Famille, p 960, header Verron) and Dauzat (Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Famille et Prenoms de France, p 592, header Verron) list Verron, but it appears to be a sobriquet, with an ultimate derivation under Vair (in Dauzat, ibid, p 583, meaning someone with a mottled complexion or perhaps "minnow") (in Morlet, ibid, p 949, similar meaning, but gives Véron as someone with mismatched eyes and does not list Verron as a variant), or Verrat (in Morlet, ibid, p 960, meaning possibly pig or wild boar, "with alternate ending, Verron"). In any case, I have no idea what the appropriate particle should be.
    He cares most about the sound, and is interested in being authentic for "German (High or Lowlands)" language/culture. It is, however, worth noting that he has been known for many years by the name "Verron" and presumably wishes to keep that in his name somewhere.
    This exact device was returned by Laurel in June of 1989 for conflict with Anastasia Vladimirovna ("Sable, two bendlets sinister Or, and in bend three mullets argent.")." This resubmission should not conflict, as this submission has the mullet much larger than the scarpes (making the mullet clearly the primary charge) and Anastasia's should have the bendlets more prominent than the mullets (making the bendlets the primary charge). Additionally, there is a change in number of mullets (from three to one).

I count two new names, one change of registered name, two new devices, and two change of registered devices for a total of seven submissions requiring payment and a check (sent separately) to Laurel for $28. Additionally, there was one name resubmission, and three device resubmissions.

serving Crown and Laurel, I am,
Her Ladyship Alia Marie de Blois,
Rampart Herald

Line Emblazon Sheet
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September 2003 Letter of Presentation
October 2003 Letter of Response
February 2004 LoAR Results
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