UNTO the members of the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, and all others who generously give of their time and talents in commentary on this Letter of Presentation, upon this 17th day of November, A.S. XXXVII (2002 CE),

DOES The Honorable Lord Pendar the Bard, Rampart Herald, send

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On behalf of Mistress Tatiana Pavlovna Sokolova, White Stag Principal Herald,
I present the following items for your consideration:

1. Artorius Greyhawk. Device resubmission (K). Sable, a hooded hawk's head argent and on a chief azure three pheons Or.

Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of His name was registered in September of 2000 via the Outlands. His previous device submission, Azure, a hooded hawk’s head argent, on a chief sable fimbriated with a bar lace, three elf-bolts issuant from the bar lace Or. was returned from kingdom in July 2002 for multiple problems, see http://www.wombatinfestation.org/rampart/rampart/may02lop/lor0702.html. This new device will be returned because the hawk's head is not identifiable as such with such an odd bag-like hood on it and the blue chief has insufficient contrast with the black field.

2. Artorius Greyhawk. Badge resubmission (K). (Fieldless) A hawk's leg palewise sustaining by its blade a sword fesswise proper.

Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of His name was registered in September of 2000 via the Outlands. His previous badge submission, (Fieldless) A hawk’s leg palewise proper sustaining by its blade a sword fesswise proper. was returned from kingdom in July 2002 for being in trian aspect and using brown strapping and a grey blade, as well as couping the sword in an unblazonable manner.

3. Avalon Dubois. Name resubmission (k).

Caer Galen, Shire of Her previous name submission, Fey Dubois was returned from kingdom in September 2002 for lack of documentation for the use of "Fey" as a given name in period. "Avalon" is her legal given name. A copy of her birth certificate was provided. "Dubois" is in Reaney & Wilson, page 143. s.n. Dubois, and in Dauzat, page 214, s.n. Dubois. She will not accept major changes, cares most about the sound, and the desired gender is female.

4. Gonter van Kortrike. New Badge. Vert, a fleur-de-lys argent and a bordure embattled Or.

Caer Galen, Shire of His name was registered in July of 2001 via the Outlands. This badge is to be jointly owned with Regana van Kortrijk. Though it resembles many of the awards registered to the Kingdom of the Outlands, that is not a bar to registration.

5. Hákon Refr. Device resubmission (K). Or, a fox courant to sinister gules and a bordure wavy sable.

Caerthe, Barony of His name is currently in submission on the October 2002 Letter of Intent. It will be registered or returned in February 2003. This is his third device attempt. His first submission, Gules, a fox salient Or. was returned from kingdom in October 2002 for conflict with Lucas d'Avignon - February of 2002 (via ): Gules, a fox salient within an orle of fleurs-de-lys Or. His second attempt, Gules, a fox salient contourny Or. was returned from kingdom in November 2002 for conflict with Anne de Junius - March of 1989 (via Atenveldt): Gules, a fox sejant to sinister grasping in its teeth the lower end of the bag of a bagpipe Or. And for conflict with Connor MacTavish - November of 1992 (via the Middle): Lozengy azure and argent, a wolf rampant contourny queue-fourchy Or. The complex line on the bordure is commonly referred to in the CoA as "ripply" and has been a cause for return in the past. Should I send it forward as it is and hope that Wreath simply instructs the submitter to draw the waves bolder, or should I pend it for a redraw at kingdom? Are there any other problems?

6. Katrine Van Deventer. New Name.

al-Barran, Barony of "Katrine" is found on a list of Dutch Names 1393-96 by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) (http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sfriedemann/names/dutch14.htm). The client then provided a list of references used by people who have done research on the van Deventer family line, but did not provide photocopies from any of them, so I see no sense in repeating the list here. The researchers are Patrick (Van Deventer) Johnston (patjohnston@earthlink.net and sarah@vandeventer.net An e-mail from Patrick Johnston notes that the oldest Van Deventer historical account is of Gerlach Pietersz van Deventer, ca. late 1300's. He also notes a Jacob Van Deventer, ca. 1505, a highly regarded cartographer who was retained by the king of Spain and the Netherlands to chart/map the old low country region. But without photocopies of the primary sources, this e-mail amounts to hearsay and is not admissable as documentation. Does anybody have anything more useful? The client will not accept major changes, the desired gender is female, and she is interested in having her name be authentic for "Dutch/Netherlands" language and/or culture.

7. Leif Vagnsson. New Name and device. Quarterly gules and azure, a bear rampant to sinister argent.

Caer Galen, Shire of Both elements are documented from Geirr Bassi. "Leif" from "Leifr", page 13. "Vagn" page 15. "Vagnsson" from the formation of patronymics page 17. St. Gabriel report #1739 is referenced. He will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture, the desired gender is male, and he is interested in having his name be authentic for "Norse" language and/or culture.

8. Margaret Colquhoun. New Name.

al-Barran, Barony of "Margaret" is found in Withycombe, page 206, dated to 1093. "Colquhoun" is found in Black, page 163, dated to 1241. The combination of English and Scots would seem unusual but for the fact that Scotland had a queen named Margaret called the "Maid of Norway" who ruled 1286-1290. There is a possibility that some Scots may have named their daughters after her in memorium. (She died on the way to Scotland). The client will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture, the desired gender is female, and she is interested in having her name authentic for 13th century time period.

9. Regana van Kortrijk. New Badge. Vert, a fleur-de-lys argent and a bordure embattled Or.

Caer Galen, Shire of Her name was registered in July of 2001 via the Outlands. This badge is to be jointly owned with Gonter van Kortrike. Though it resembles many of the awards registered to the Kingdom of the Outlands, that is not a bar to registration.

10. Rothin in flamska. Device resubmission (L). Or, a lily gules.

Caerthe, Barony of Her name was registered in February 2002 via the Outlands. Her previous device submission, Argent, a chevron fracted counter-ermine in chief a gendy flower gules. was returned by Laurel in February 2002 for use of a gendy flower, which has been a prohibited charge since November 1999.

11. Ryan De Caergybi. New Name and device. Per pale argent and gules, a griffin within six feathers in annulo counterchanged.

al-Barran, Barony of "Ryan" is the anglicized version of the Gaelic name "Rian" as found in Wolfe, Irish Names and Surnames page 631 under the heading O'Riagain and in O'C&M, page 155, under the heading Rian. The "De Caergybi" form can be found in Names and Naming Practices in the Anglesey Submissions of 1406 by Heather Rose Jones in Y Camamseriad 4, 1996. He will not accept major changes, cares most about the meaning (Ryan from Caergybi), the desired gender is male, and he is interesting in having his name be authentic for "14th century English" language and/or culture.

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