Outlands College of Heralds
From the office of the Rampart Herald
Pendar the Bard - 10 Magnifico - Los Lunas, NM 87031 - (505) 866-4369
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UNTO the members of the College of Heralds of the Kingdom of the Outlands, and all others who generously give of their time and talents in commentary on this Letter of Presentation, upon this 7th day of May, A.S. XXXVI (2002 CE),

DOES The Honorable Lord Pendar the Bard, Rampart Herald, send

GREETINGS!

On behalf of Master Balthazar Tigrerro, White Stag Principal Herald,
I present the following items for your consideration:

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July 2002 Letter of Response
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  1. Artorius Greyhawk. New Device. Azure, a hooded hawk’s head argent, on a chief sable fimbriated with a bar lace, three elf-bolts issuant from the bar lace Or.

  2. Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of His name was registered in September of 2000 via the Outlands. The hawk’s head is in trian aspect, which alone is cause for return. I have no idea what a “bar lace” is, but you cannot use objects as fimbriation lines. No documentation was provided for “bar lace”. An “elf bolt” is found in the Pic Dic under “arrow, arrowhead” as an SCA invention. I found no examples of its use in a search of the O&A, nor did I find any examples of such a thing blazoned as a stone arrowhead or spearhead. Is it even registerable?

  3. Artorius Greyhawk. New Badge. (Fieldless) A hawk’s leg palewise proper sustaining by its blade a sword fesswise proper.

  4. Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of His name was registered in September of 2000 via the Outlands. Again, it is drawn in trian aspect which is cause for return. The sword blade was colored grey and the hilt was wrapped with brown straps.

  5. Caerthe, Barony of. Badge Resubmission (K). Or, a dragon passant gules and a chief embattled sable.
  6. The previous badge submission, “Or, a dragon passant gules and a bordure embattled sable.” was returned from kingdom on the April 2002 LoR for conflict with with Ludwig Grun (8/98 Meridies): “Or, a dragon segreant gules, a bordure embattled sable.”, with one difference for position between segreant and passant. There is now 1 CD vs. Ludwig’s for posture and a second for changing the type of peripheral.

  7. Caiterína inghean uí Gheraílt. New Device. Per bend sinister gules and pean, in dexter chief a Celtic cross Or.

  8. Caerthe, Barony of Her name was registered in January of 2001 via Atlantia.

  9. Cathyn Fitzgerald. Change of Device Resubmission (K). Per bend rayonny gules and sable.

  10. al-Barran, Barony of His name was registered in November of 1995 via Calontir. His previous change of device submission, “Pily bendy sinister gules and sable” was returned from the Kingdom of the Outlands in April of 2001 for violation of RfSVIII.2.b.iv, “Elements evenly divided into multiple parts of two different tinctures must have good contrast between their parts.” His current device was registered in September of 1987 via the Outlands: “Lozengy couped in fess gules and argent, on a pale Or a sword inverted azure.” If this new device is registered he would like to retain the old device as a badge.

  11. Ceara McCain. New Name.

  12. Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of “Ceara” is a later form of “Cera”, and is found in O’C&M, pg. 50. For documentation for “McCain” see Fergus McCain below. She will allow changes and makes no request for authenticity.

  13. Corwin Roberts. New Name and Device. Sable, a pall inverted between two dragons combattant and a phoenix rising from base Or.

  14. Dragonsspine, Barony of “Corwin” is found in R&W, page 109, under the heading Corden. Corwin is one of the names on the Problem Names Project http://www.medievalscotland.org/problem/names/corwin.shtml. It was ruled SCA compatible a long time ago. “There are some twenty Megans, Meghans, and Meggans already registered. As with Fiona and Corwin, I consider the name to be so much a part of SCA culture as to be acceptable, even if it is recent coinage.” [BoE, 14 Apr 85, p.4] “Robert” is found in Withycombe, page 254, and has been popular since the Domesday Book. He will accept changes, the desired gender is male, and he is interested in having his name be authentic for the “English” language and/or culture.

  15. Elaisse de Garrigues. New Device. Azure chaussé Or semy-de-lys sable, an oak tree eradicated argent.

  16. Hawks Hollow, Canton of Her name was sent to Laurel on the February 17, 2002 Outlands LoI.

  17. Fergus MacLennan. New Device. Quarterly embattled vert and Or, two wolves salient argent langued gules and two Celtic crosses vert.

  18. Hawks Hollow, Canton of His name was sent to Laurel on the February 17, 2002 Outlands LoI as Fearghus MacLennan.

  19. Fergus McCain. New Name.

  20. Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of “Fergus” is found in OC&M, page 97, s.n. Fergus:Fearghus. “Fergus has been confused with another old name, Forggus, and after the Old Irish period they are both rendered Fergus. Fergus is an extremely common name in the the early period.” Black, sn Fergus gives Fearghus as the modern Gaelic, and Fergus as the Middle Gaelic spelling. Fergus is also the standard English spelling and occurs in 16th C Scotland in the data from the Orkney Islands http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grm/orkney-masc.htm. “Fergus” can also be documented as a Manx given name using the website Personal Names Extract from W.W.Gill A Third Manx Scrapbook - dating from 1928 but not published until much later. http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/famhist/fnames/wwgillpn.htm “McCain” is a variant of the surname CAIN, or CAINE, contracted from Mac Cathain, ' Cathan's son.' As found at the website Surnames Derived From "Personal" Names of Purely Native Origin Chapter II. (Part II.) found at the URL http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/manx/manxnb/v05p020.htm The spelling “McCain” is not specified but is inferred from the construction and spelling variants listed. He will accept changes and made no request for authenticity.

  21. George Woulfryth. New Name & Device. Azure, on a bend sinister argent three gouttes palewise vert.

  22. Caerthe, Barony of “George” is found in Withycombe, page 128-9, s.n. George dated by citation from Magd. c. 1270-80. “Woulfryth” is found in Reaney & Wilson, page 501, under the header Woolfrey, citing Matilda Woulfryth 1297 MinAcctCo. The client is interested in having his name be authentic for “English”, and he will accept changes. He is most interested in the sound and the desired gender is male. The device conflicts with Corwynn of Thornwood (2/75): Azure, on a bend sinister argent a thorned slip embowed throughout sable. with only 1 CD granted for all changes to the tertiary charge group.

  23. Georgius of Canterbury. New Name.

  24. Dragonsspine, Barony of “Georgius” is listed in Withycombe, page 128-129, under the heading “George” dated to 1199, 1203 from the Curia Regis rolls. “Canterbury” is an English city which has existed since very early period. The first Archbishop of Canterbury was Augustine, who became Archbishop in 597. He will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture, the desired gender is male, and he is interested in having his name be made authentic for “English” language and/or culture.

  25. Isabella Francesca Niccola Giovanni. New Name.

  26. Fontaine dans Sable, Shire of All three given name elements are documented from the website Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427 by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/ The patronymic surname “Giovanni” is documented using Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427 http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ferrante/catasto/family_names.html She will not allow major changes, cares most about the sound, the desired gender is female, and she is interested in having her name be authentic for 15th-16th cent. Italian time period, language and/or culture.

  27. Katrein Adler. Device Resubmission (L). Per bend sinister argent and azure, in bend three cinquefoils counterchanged.

  28. Caerthe, Barony of Her name was registered in July of 2001 via the Outlands. Her previous device submission “Per bend sinister argent and azure, two cinquefoils counterchanged.”, was returned from Laurel in February 2002 for conflict with Rose the Riotous (12/91 East): “Per bend sinister argent and azure, a garden rose bendwise sinister, slipped and leaved, azure and a goutte d'eau”, 1 CD for changing half the charge group.

  29. Patrick Olyveyr. New Device. Or, a chevron ployé vert between two pairs of swords in saltire gules and a compass star azure.

  30. Caer Galen, Shire of His name was sent to Laurel on the March 17, 2002 Outlands LoI.

  31. Robert fitz Ralph. New Name and Device. Vert, a Celtic cross argent.

  32. St. Golias, College of “Robert” is found in Withycombe, page 254, and has been popular since the Domesday Book. “fitz” meaning “son of” is the English/Scots corruption of the French “filius”. “Ralph” is found in Withycombe, page 249, was in use in England before the Norman conquest after which it was reinforced by Norman influence. The device, "Vert, a Celtic cross argent" conflicts with: Gormflait Suiban ni Cuallachta (1/73): Gyronny Or and azure, a Celtic cross argent, fimbriated sable. 1 CD for changes to the field. Nothing for the fimbriation; Dawn Marie O'Toole (9/89 Caid): Vert, a Celtic cross argent between four crescents in cross, horns outward, Or. 1 CD for removing the secondary charge group; Margaret Malise de Kyrkyntolaghe (2/91 Middle): Vert, on a Celtic cross argent a marguerite blossom azure seeded Or. 1 CD for removing the tertiary charge group.

  33. Robert fitz Ralph. New Badge. Vert, a Celtic cross argent.

  34. St. Golias, College of Yes, you read it correctly. The device and badge are identical. Why? I don’t have a clue. But he did pay for both of them. The badge will obviously be returned for the same conflicts as the device. Even if it didn’t have any conflicts I would not send two identical pieces of armory to Laurel.

  35. Roderick Conall MacLeod. New Badge. (Fieldless) a three-masted galleon sails set proper.

  36. Caerthe, Barony of His name was registered in November of 1995 via the Outlands. The ship is brown with white sails and red pennons.

  37. Scholast Michel. New Name & Device. Vert, a dragon rampant Or and a bordure Or semy of closed books vert tooled Or.

  38. Caerthe, Barony of “Scholast” is found in Withycombe, page 264 under the header Scholastica, dated to 1450 as a feminine given name. “Michel” is found in Reaney & Wilson, page 311, under the header Mitchell, dated to 1219, 1236, and 1280 as a surname. The client also provides S Gabriel Report #988, which dates Scholast as a feminine given name to 1450 and Michel as a surname to 1327, 1219, and 1205. The client is interested in having her name be authentic for mid-15th C England, and will accept changes. She is most interested in the name's meaning, which she describes as "derived from Saint Scholastica's name," and the desired gender is female.

  39. Tat’iana Travina. New Name and Device. Azure, a hippopotamus statant, a bordure argent.

  40. St. Golias, College of Both name elements were documented using A Dictionary of Period Russian Names by Paul Wickenden of Thanet, http://sca.org/heraldry/paul. Tat’iana (f) - “to designate.” Tat’iana, martyr. 1356. [Lev 3] (Eve Levin’s Calendar of Saints-12th-15th Century Novgorod.) Trava (m) - “grass.” Pats: Travin (Saltyk Travin, Moscow boiar’s son). 1469. [Tup 349] (N.M. Tupikov Slovar’ drevne-russkikh lichnykh sobstvennykh imen [Dictionary of Ancient Russian Personal Names]. In the grammar section under Feminine Patronymics we find “1. In most cases, women used the same types of patronymics as men. However, their bynames had to agree with the gender of the subject, which, in Russian, means that they had to add an “a” on the end...Borodin becomes Borodina, Malinin becomes Malinina...” She will not accept major changes, cares most about the language/culture, the desired gender is female, and she is interested in having her name be authentic for “Russian” language and/or culture. While the Hippopotamus as an heraldic charge is unusual, it is apparently not unregisterable. David of Staffa (5/81 West): Or, a hippopotamus statant azure, a base engrailed vert; Aneirin ap Corwyn o'r Ynis Witrin (11/84 Atenveldt): Per fess wavy azure and vert, a hippopotamus rampant to sinister argent, in chief a trident fesswise Or; Sindra Gunhild Sigmundsdottir (9/90 Ansteorra): Vert, a hippopotamus rampant between in chief two roses argent, on a chief Or a stick shuttle sable; Aaron de Hameldene (4/93 Middle): Argent, a hippopotamus statant contourny azure. I am not aware of any precedents since 1993 banning their use.

  41. Thomas de Cherbourg. Device Resubmission (K). Sable, a bend sinister gules fimbriated argent, overall a cross fleury Or.

  42. al-Barran, Barony of His name was sent to Laurel on the January 17, 2002 Outlands LoI. His previous device submission, “Sable, a bend sinister gules fimbriated argent between a Latin cross and a fleur-de-lys Or.” was returned from Kingdom on the January Letter of Response.

  43. Þóra Hrónarsdóttir. New Name and Device. Per fess azure and argent, a sunburst inverted and a dragon displayed counterchanged.

  44. St. Golias, College of “Þóra” is found in Geirr Bassi, page 16. “Hrónarr” is found ibid page 11. “-sdóttir” is the feminine patronymic form found ibid page 18. She will accept changes, the desired gender is female, and she is interested in having her name be authentic for “9th-11th century Norse” time period, language/culture.

  45. Þóra Hrónarsdóttir. New Badge. (Fieldless) A dragon displayed azure.

  46. St. Golias, College of This badge conflicts with Dieterich von Kleinberg (11/00 An Tir): Per saltire argent and Or, a dragon displayed azure bellied argent. 1 CD for fielded vs. fieldless. Nothing for changing the tincture of the belly; Andrew of Riga (1/74): Sable, a wivern volant azure fimbriated argent. 1 CD for fielded vs. fieldless. Nothing for the fimbriation. There *might* be a CD for displayed vs. volant, but considering that this was registered in 1974, it might just be misblazoned. A visual check would be required.

  47. Wilham of Douglas. New Name and Device. Argent, a heart gules, on a chief sable two arms armored counterembowed each maintaining a dagger Or.

  48. Caer Galen, Shire of “Wilham” is found in the list of male names in the web article B rass Inscription Index found linked from the Laurel website at http://sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/ (Wilham de Kesteven, rector 1361. From URL below:) It is based on data provided by the brass rubbing collection of the Ashmolean Museum of Art and Archaeology at Oxford University. Which can be found in total at http://www.ashmol.ox.ac.uk/ash/departments/antiquities/brass/counties/Hertfordshire.html “Douglas” can be found in Black, Surnames of Scotland, page 217-218 under the heading Douglas. William de Douglas, the first of the family in record, between 1175 and 1199, witnessed a confirmation charter by Jocelin, bishop of Glasgow, to the monks of Kelso (Kelso, 454), etc... He will not accept major changes, cares most about the sound, the desired gender is male, and he is interested in having his name be authentic for “14th century” time period. The only specifically 14th century citation Black gives for Douglas is “Dwglass 1399”. “The old pronunciation of the name was Doo-glas, the modern Dug-las.” I am going to punt to Laurel on authenticity for this name, but suggestions are welcome. The heart in his device could stand to be a lot larger, but I understand why it is not. The Douglas clan armory is “Argent, a heart gules (sometimes crowned Or) and on a chief azure three mullets argent”. When the crown is removed, the space left behind explains the space on Wilham’s device between the heart and the chief. The arms on the chief may suffer from identifiability problems. Please view it from across a room to see if the charges still look like arms from a distance and let me know the results.
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July 2002 Letter of Response
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